Anonymous #2 16w

Revolutionary nationalism is not the same as wanting an ethnostate

6

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

no shocker you’re also a zionist. at what point will you realize that you’re objectively on the wrong side of history. colonialism is a decaying and dying system. let it die and retire with dignity. it’s the least you can do

5

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

and you should retire with dignity* colonialism is a vile system built upon the extraction of not only our fellow human being, but the ecology as well. it is the vessel which has fueled capitalism’s seemingly limitless growth. there is no dignity in a system that puts its own survival before humanity’s or the planet

4

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

I agree colonialism is dead the U.S. isn’t colonialist. The U.S. is not decaying it has the highest gdp the largest army by every standard the U.S. is doing great geopolitically. I already said that the creation of Israel was morally wrong your the only one for ethno states being created

-1

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

> the US isn’t colonialist Remind me what we were before independence from Britain again? > the US is not decaying GDP is high, sure, but do you think we’re actually doing well? People here are suffering and people all over the world (rightly) hate us. And once again, revolutionary nationalism =/= advocating for ethnostates

2

Anonymous #2 16w

Hint on the first thing: there were 13 of them

3

Anonymous #2 16w

Just bc something was something doesn’t mean it still is, I feel like that’s pretty obvious. No not to be super mean to you but if you get off social media life in the US is pretty good, just bc we have one bad president doesn’t mean that things are bad forever.

0

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

remind me, what were the origins of American policing?

1

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

i think they were called slave catchers

1

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

and if we haven’t been paying attention, the legal system still disproportionately targets, polices, and brutalizes Black people, on top of the weaponized and systemic poverty Black people have been relegated to in the US. knowing that there is what is essentially a pipeline that funnels Black people into private prisons where inmates are paid less than $1 on average hourly, how can you say the US has changed at all?

1

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

Omg slave catchers!?!!? On a serious note that’s a stupid point obviously institutions develop and change.

1

Anonymous #2 16w

What’s the difference

0

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

sure, maybe in appearance, but functionally, the US is still the colonial slave state it always has been, and still today, white liberals are some of the firmest supporters of something they allegedly oppose. liberalism is the ideology oppressor. it seeks to make the oppressed happy with their own oppression. people of color will never have representation in a white supremacist state, nor are europeans indigenous to this continent. the solution seems simple

1

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

ideology of the oppressor

1

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

yeah, and the US’ institutions have changed only in appearance to mask the same very systems that have been present this entire time

1

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

Black Power vs. white power

1

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

Black Power being rooted in African self-determination, advocating for Black political and economic power. historically in the US, much of the Black Power movement was socialist white power being a degenerated offshoot of colonial capitalism. white power looks like fascism

1

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

That sounds like a great reason to reform the justice system. Not ethnically cleanse all white people and destroy the country. We can have realistic solutions to issues.

0

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

lmfao

1

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

look, you may think reforms are fine and dandy, just remember the color of your skin and your continent of origin

1

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

and on your reforms bs. look at every single reform that was enacted during the New Deals that has been reversed. reforms are weak and exist so long as the capitalist class allows them to. we need revolution. alleged reformists don’t even have popular political support in the first place, and liberals have demonstrated their political ineptitude with their satisfaction in a party that continues to not only lose elections, but fail to deliver on policies

1

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

One is rooted in resistance to oppression, the other is the oppression

3

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

I won’t have to bc the U.S. won’t collapse despite you being off your meds

0

Anonymous blue__wave 16w

The US is by definition colonial (as in, Europeans came here and created settler colonies). I’m not really on social media actually, and I’m watching what little we have going for us crumbling around our ears.

3

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

The new deal has not been reversed social security is still alive and well and one of the most popular policies. Biden was a reformist he became president. Reform obviously works unless you can serious tell me poc have the same lived experience they did during the beginning of this country. The Democratic Party won the last election lmao it’s so comical that Republicans won one elections so now we have to ethnically cleanse and destroy the country.

0

Anonymous #2 16w

Your on social media rn lmao, you realize that makes every state a colonial state unless you can name a state that is populated by the original ethnic population.

1

Anonymous #2 16w

Ig if we have the most broad definition of a colonial state, but at that point it loses all moral loading.

1

Anonymous _orangutan 16w

So if it brown people it’s not an ethno state lmao?

0

Anonymous #2 16w

I actually kinda agree with that to some extent, I’m guessing that we’re gonna have different standards for oppression.

0