Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

You know exactly what I mean 😤

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Anonymous OP 4w

Don’t be a snowflake and say it with your full chest fascist

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Anonymous #2 4w

I actually don’t think there is, their biggest city is like half the size of Chicago, and not nearly as stratified. I fucking love Chicago, and despise seeing how much racist people slander it (it’s deadass not even one of the more dangerous cities in America but all these chucklefucks know about it is what Trap Lore Ross tells them, but I digress) and I still don’t think there’s anywhere in Poland as bad as American purposeful ghettoization has made CERTAIN SMALL PARTS of our cities.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Is the South Side more dangerous than anywhere in Poland? Probably. I don’t think that’s really controversial. Where I disagree is in the implied cause that these people list. My explanation is pretty simple, an extremely high density of impoverished people. Which is by design. White America built the ghettoes specifically to keep Black people poor, uneducated, and trapped in a cycle of violence. All of the places these people point to have crime 1:1 with the old redlined maps.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

What you’re saying is generally true but there’s also high crime areas in Poland and that’s the point. Chicago and other American majority-minority cities being dangerous in an outsized way is racist propaganda mostly, speaking as somebody who has spent most of my life living in cities like this and has traveled and known enough folks from overseas to have at least some perspective. And on a base level, no, it’s not ever reasonable to compare a whole country to a single city, barring 1/2

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Anonymous #3 4w

SYBAU

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Anonymous #2 4w

A city-state like Singapore or something.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Also for the record, Poland has ghettoized, criminalized, and systematically impoverished their minority population. It’s just Romani people in their case.

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Anonymous OP 4w

You’re the only little bitch here too afraid to say what they mean.

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Anonymous #2 4w

The people in a European Social Democracy, even the worst off of them, are simply not as bad off as the American poor. That’s nothing to do with race, and everything to do with material conditions. American ghettoes are worse than the ones in Europe, I’m not saying Europe hasn’t done the same shit, and I’m not saying people don’t have it bad some places over there. But it’s fundamentally different. The American poor are poorer, have more access to firearms, and we have more organized crime.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

Saying that we have significantly more organized crime than Eastern Europe is crazy lowkey. I’m not totally sure why you’re arguing with me this much bc I think we both fundamentally agree that OP is a racist and problems are systemic, but you 1) have not addressed the fact that it’s not reasonable to compare countries to cities and 2) are being kind of weirdly oppositional to the idea that there could be a place in Poland more dangerous than Chicago, which is really myopic.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Like fuck our social systems fr they are failing. But I would like to see you go into a Romani enclave where the folks living there are being denied services and been subject to centuries of systemic marginalization, targeted criminalization and segregation efforts, and turned away from the civil economy and then say there’s nowhere in Poland less safe or comparable to Chicago

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Anonymous #2 4w

Yeah man I don’t really think you’re as likely to get murdered in a high-crime area of a country with strong gun control and much lower poverty rates as you are in a country with 2 guns for every person and much more poverty, how myopic of me 😒

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4w

So once again you are comparing an entire country to the city and not addressing the fact that that’s a problem. Fundamentally you can’t make a valid argument that way. You want to compare Warsaw and Chicago??? Go crazy. Poland and the US?? Go ahead. But you’re currently playing into the biggest fallacy in the OP

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Anonymous #2 4w

Well right now I am comparing Poland to the US at large, you’re the one continually bringing up Chicago. America has more poverty, more severe poverty, more guns, and more murder than Poland. As a whole. If crime was baseball, we’d be arguing The Cubs vs. any given Little League team if we’re comparing America to Poland. Yeah, getting shot is worse than getting pickpocketed, or even stabbed. The poorest Americans, as a whole, have it worse than the poorest Europeans. That’s a material reality.

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