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Immigrants actually help the country exponentially more than they hurt it… But that’s apparently a conversation we aren’t ready to have yet
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Anonymous 5w

Yes but have you considered that republicans need a minority to hurt so that they can feel better about themselves?

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Anonymous 5w

We can have it lol. Brings diversity and new cultures to our country, all while *willingly* providing labor that is sorely underappreciated

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Anonymous 5w

Yeah when they are legal

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Anonymous 5w

No

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Oh definitely

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

Exactly

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Sure but there are some people who have cultures that do not align with western society. Hence why there is no issue with identifying and vetting people who want to live in this country. People on the right are not anti-immigrant they are just anti-illegal immigration.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

There is no such thing as “cultures that do not align with western cultures” there are just different cultures and further, good people and bad people. That is a nothing burger statement by republicans to justify xenophobia. It doesn’t mean anything.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

So if someone who illegally came here is being a kind hardworking individual and contributing to society, they don’t deserve to be here?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Define “do not align with western society”

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

If you can provide concrete evidence as to how immigration is harming our country I might be able to reason with you, but if you can’t, just don’t say anything please

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

No

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Ok so you are just rage baiting and I will choose to ignore you 😌

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Anonymous replying to -> moderatemonkey 5w

Ok so if it just comes down to there just being good and bad people, why is there an issue with removing bad people from the country?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

The bad people are currently running the government

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Say it louder for the people in the backkkkk

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Ok and there has been legal action and attempts to have them removed from their positions. What’s the difference?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Actually has there? Trump has yet to be removed from office, so…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Did you skip over where I said attempts?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Attempts doesn’t mean successes bby, that piece of shit is still actively fucking up our country

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

You’re clearly missing what my point was. People felt that he was doing something wrong and therefore tried to get him to face consequences. Immigration status aside, if you break rules or laws there should be consequences. Is that a hard concept to grasp?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

…so we agree that Trump and co are bad people?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Ok I kind of get what you are saying but my post wasn’t remotely about the “bad immigrants” it was about how immigration is helpful to our economy and you somehow had to spin it and point out the bad immigrants.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

Being completely honest, I don’t think everyone in his administration is bad. But I personally am not a huge Trump fan.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

They're all fucking fascists

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

yeah, definitely some good folks in there but the majority not so much

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Sure I do think there are arguments both ways. There is some harm done and there is some “good” done but I think overall there is nothing wrong with vetting who lives in this country with IDs and background checks. That was the main point I was trying to make. Does that mean I support everything that ICE does? No. But I can at the very least stand behind the overall goal of supporting legal immigrants and knowing who is living in the US.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5w

Nobody is gonna want to engage in conversation with you if all you’re gonna do is sprout profanity and extreme buzzwords.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Trump received due process, the immigrants don’t…

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Anonymous replying to -> moderatemonkey 5w

So I guess you didn’t read my entire previous message. I’ll just say again, I don’t support everything that is happening or the way some things have been carried out but that doesn’t change the fact that at the base level I still think illegal immigration is wrong and I see no issue with deportations. Other countries do it too. There is nothing wrong with the concept in its simplest form.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Other countries have comprehensive gun laws. Is the metric for how are system should work based on what other countries do? No one wants open borders but the rhetoric surrounding illegal immigrants on the right is not factually grounded and also seems to represent the actual actions they are taking.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 5w

There are many illegal immigrants who also help the economy and are genuinely amazing people I’ll have you know, so maybe rethink your stance before saying something incredibly insensitive

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Anonymous replying to -> moderatemonkey 5w

gun laws are opening up an entirely different route of conversation. I was just saying that nobody seems to complain when other countries do it. Again, I will stress to you that I’m not condoning everything that is being done in regards to deportations however there are those cases that make people weary of who is in the country or trying to get in. There are people out there who think open borders is the solution and as long as you and I can agree it’s not, then we share that lane of thought.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

I’m not a UK Citizen and this isn’t “UK Politics”. No one thinks open borders is the solution it’s not a viable political position. This is literally just right wing lies. Illegals immigrants commit SIGNIFICANTLY less crime per capita than US citizens AND are major contributors, not only to the economy on aggregate but also to local, state, and federal taxes.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

“Incredibly insensitive” you are a pussy

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 5w

And you are a bigot. Which one is worse?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

You believe in open borders, i promise you im not the bigot

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

Enjoy being a pussy for life tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 5w

No one believes in open borders you’re just too stupid and incapable of doing your own research to realize you’ve been made into a bunch of billionaire’s little bitch boy that listens REALLY good.

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Anonymous replying to -> moderatemonkey 5w

Gag it!

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Anonymous replying to -> moderatemonkey 5w

There are definitely people out there with very radical ideas when it comes to borders. Maybe you just aren’t hearing or seeing them. I’m sorry but I will not change my mind when it comes to supporting vetting and identifying everyone who comes in and out of this country. That is my stance at the most basic level. I’ve made this very clear. Also as a side note, by definition, illegally entering the country is a civil offense and a civil offense is a violation of the law.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Show me a single federal politician that ran on the position of open borders.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

Dumbass that’s my point. Everyone literally already wants that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5w

I cannot emphasize to you enough that legalizing racial discrimination for deportations, eliminating due process, promoting the falsehood that there are “cultures that are not compatible with the west,” and spreading racist conspiracy theories not only doesn’t help legal immigrants, but are steps actively taken to harm them and erode their rights. If you think otherwise you’re really delusional respectfully

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 5w

Ok I’ve said MULTIPLE TIMES that I don’t support some things that are happening in which HOW deportations are being done. But I still believe in them happening. Also it’s not really discrimination if nearly 70% of illegal immigrants are from Mexico or Central America. European immigrants are getting deported as well. There are also absolutely people and cultures with ideologies that do not coexist with western society. That’s not delusional it’s just a fact.

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