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- It’s not a race thing. - Rehabilitation is still better than punishment. - The current justice system is flawed. - Violent criminals should be under more scrutiny before entering release programs. - This is not a right or left issue.

big_al_the_riddler

You can tell exactly what the actual motivation is for these people being outraged by this case because every time they gotta bring up George Floyd.
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Anonymous 1w

Agree with all of this. It’s very frustrating to see people immediately try and politicize this and make it about whatever agende fueling talking point is taking up rent in their minds.

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Anonymous 1w

You cannot rehabilitate someone like this. This has been made increasingly obvious over the past ~8 years with these judges mandating a rehabilitation program and then saying alright go on your way

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I totally agree. And that would have been made very clear if anyone bothered to even talk to him. He was schizophrenic, violent, and unstable. He needed to be institutionalized, but he was not. This is a failure of our justice system on multiple fronts.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

But how is the justice system supposed to be overhauled? If Trump or a Republican governor removes judges everyone goes bonkers and dems don’t want to remove people that give them an edge

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

It’d be shortsighted to attribute this to a problem with judges alone. The issue is that the judges are the only ones who get to make these calls, because the justice system is punishment-focused. There are no people appointed specifically to ascertain whether someone is right for rehab, and no actual rehabilitation programs during incarceration. It’s all just punishment with a coat of paint. Trump does not have the answer (though the Dems likely don’t either).

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

There are rehabilitation programs in jail for those who want them is the issue that’s where it becomes a grey area. You have people who go to jail once and become completely different people than they were before, do a complete 180. But then there’s the issue of the repeat offenders that have thrown away their lives that continue to be released instead of being kept off the streets.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

No, there aren’t. Prison is not a good environment to address the leading causes of crime, such as poverty, nor does it facilitate an environment where people can get out of the fight for survival that frequently underscores crime-stricken neighborhoods. The Scandinavians have it right. As for repeat offenders, it would be better if we had rehabilitation programs, because it would be obvious that they cannot or do not want to from their performance in them. We can catch them before they go.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Bro are you stupid? You think there are not rehabilitation programs in prison? It facilitates an environment where people can educate themselves, get a GED, or learn a skill or trade. You cannot help someone who does not want to help themselves. The following comment is a link to a comprehensive directory of rehabilitation programs available nationally.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/docs/20170518_BOPNationalProgramCatalog.pdf

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Have you ever been in a prison?

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