It’s a propaganda film by Zionists to justify a war that’s bankrupting our country

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Anonymous OP 3w

A film from 1991 is propaganda for a 2026 war? Is there any legitimate criticism of the Muslim religion?

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Anonymous #2 3w

Battle plans for going to war with Iran, along with 6 other Muslim countries we would go on to invade in the years to come were leaked to the public in 2001. You should read manufacturing consent to get an idea of how the propaganda system actually works, as well as the history of our country—otherwise you would have no need to ask this in the first place. But it’s good that you are, even if rhetorically, because it potentially hints at curiosity, which is necessary for us to understand things

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Anonymous #2 3w

Israel has been trying to get us to go to war with Iran since the 90s, this is in the public record rather humorously with Netanyahu’s speeches saying Iran is “weeks away from getting a nuke” since at least 1995, there’s a compilation you can see online. In fact we supported Saddam Hussein as a proxy with chemical weapons in the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s, so they’ve been considered an enemy for some time now. If you read the foreign policy work of Zbigniew Brzezinski this is made fairly evident

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Anonymous #2 3w

Legitimacy rests upon truth, the truth is a name of God in Islam. Islam is a description, meaning submission to God, and a means of guidance for humanity in embodying, actualizing, and having a relationship with the transcendent. It is the means of having truth itself, and its proper manifestation is truth. So what you’re really asking is: is it legitimate to criticize that which is legitimate? No. What there’s logical room for is having legitimate criticism of Muslims & our faulty actualization

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Anonymous #2 3w

That movie, which is propaganda, distorts its own alleged story upon which it is based to edit out the Muslim men & women who helped her leave the country. The goal is to dehumanize & vilify Muslim society but chiefly its men as abusive monsters that must be defeated, which underwrites a moral support for war in the public consciousness. Are there bad Muslim men? Of course. Are there good Muslim men? Obviously. This isn’t a new strategy at all, much the same was employed against Germans in WW1

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Anonymous #2 3w

The German hun is framed as a brutish monkey, to be defeated so white women can be “liberated.” Similar verbiage was used by Tucker Carlson to dehumanize Iraqis as illiterate monkeys in the lead up to the Iraq war, which resulted in many cases of rape committed by American soldiers, who will likely find themselves in the excruciatingly fiery gaping pits of hell once their sad lives end. Fundamentally: the media and imperial ecosystems in this country always work in concert with one another

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Anonymous #2 3w

How are you being subliminally influenced to view your fellow human beings who happened to be born on some other plot of land on the other side of the world? What do you actually know about them truly or what they believe truly? Does this give you the right to take their life, their children’s life, their cat’s life, their property, their dignity? All this has to be agreed to by first framing the other as unhuman, immoral, etc. There are terrible abusive alcoholic child molesting Christian

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Anonymous #2 3w

And Jewish and irreligious men in this country. There are also plenty of decent normal men though. What if someone decides to make that the primary framing of Americans as the ugliest of us? Highlighting the fact our government executes genocide while covering up for Epstein, a government we supposedly voted in. Does that give the world license to view us that way? Do we deserve death & worse for this sensationalized depiction of us? No. Any moral person can see such a depiction to be propaganda

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Anonymous OP 3w

Again, is there any legitimate criticism of the Muslim faith?

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Anonymous #2 3w

The answer has been given

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Anonymous OP 3w

No, you went on about Zionist propaganda and whataboutism. What’s the line between legitimate criticism of the Muslim faith (you still have not said whether you believe it exists) and Zionist propaganda

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Anonymous #2 3w

All of this has been covered, which suggests to me that you're likely just someone operating in bad faith, unwilling to even read what is said. There was no whataboutism, and the point of Zionist propaganda was covered because you asked about it. Your second question about legitimacy is covered in the third comment, since you either somehow missed or refused to read it.

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Anonymous OP 2w

Your response was “there are bad Christians and bad Jews and bad people” And then your response on legitimate criticism was “Islam actually means submission and truth is one of God’s name and you can’t criticize truth.” Which is so obviously not what anyone but Muslims mean when they refer to Muslim as an adjective not a verb of submission. So pretty much your runaround answer was no, there is no such thing as legitimate criticism of Islam. Which is pretty telling

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Anonymous OP 2w

Answers like that are why many people don’t trust Islam. Because you can write an essay about the how there are bad apples everywhere but then in the same breath say true criticism is impossible. But it’s okay to criticize the other religions because they’re wrong

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Anonymous #2 2w

We both know that’s not what I said, thanks on confirming you are engaging in bad faith. I will not respond to you after this. Congrats, you have discovered the standard opinion of any religious person who believes in objective truth and the transcendent literally ever. Your “criticism” to me is literally just saying “um actually it’s 5” to me saying “2+2=4.” I engage with criticism of Muslims and specifics of scholastic approaches in Islam frequently, that’s not an issue. Islam is fundamentally

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Anonymous #2 2w

True though so your rejection of that truth as some sort of criticism is always just going to be false. I understand that people have their own other beliefs, I don’t believe in their beliefs because I think they are false, as I’m sure they wrongly assume of my own. I hold room for dialogue with such people in my life. Islam is reality itself, people not trusting true reality is their own thing to figure out that I wish them the best with

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Anonymous OP 2w

lol I’m not gonna pretend like that’s not almost verbatim what you said. I didn’t ask whether you felt your religion was correct which obviously you do as most religious people do, I asked whether you believed there was legitimate criticism of the Muslim faith. To which you decided to reinterpret and then answer no

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Anonymous OP 2w

If modern society says sex with 9 year old is bad, and your religion says your prophet had sex with a 9 year old, then that’s legitimate criticism whether you believe he was in the right to do so. If modern society agrees that forcing women to cover up or else is bad, if you believe women should cover up or else then that’s valid criticism. You can’t just deflect that it’s Zionist propaganda for the west to point out cultural and societal differences between two cultures

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Anonymous OP 2w

Own up to being and thinking differently and say people are allowed to criticize your way of life without being puppeteered by the evil Zionist state

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