If someone says “I want all black people dead.” I don’t need 2 hours to make a decision on if it’s racist or not. You can add context but it doesn’t change the statement is racist. Calling black people “prowling blacks” is racist idgaf. Saying the civil rights act was a mistake is racist idgaf how you try and pull a slippery slope fallacy. Context is not your get out of jail free card to pardon him from the fact he spent his career normalizing bigotry.
He didn’t call black people “prowling blacks” he called the specific black people that prowl and attack white people that. And believe it or not, in the full quote on the civil rights act he actually explains WHY it was a mistake. So you’re proving me right with that one. You can call whatever you want a slippery slope fallacy but saying “context doesn’t matter” is not the genius argument you think it is
“Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.” May 19th 2023. And also saying “blacks that prowl” is the same fucking thing as “prowling blacks” you’re playing the semantics game and it changes nothing it’s still racist af language that dehumanizes black people as dangerous predators you need to watch out for. And he explained it was a mistake because he used a slippery slope fallacy about 1/2
White hatred. It was a fallacious argument that said black people should not have gotten the civil rights because it made things worse for white people. And you won’t call everything cherry picked but you won’t quantify what is and isn’t cherry picked you’re totally not giving yourself an unlimited get out of jail free card.
You’re doing exactly what i argued doesn’t work here. Using the same tired quotes that quite literally are the opposite of what you’re trying to say in full context. I don’t have the space here to transcribe entire videos, but they’re public for you to watch instead of repeating the same 5 quotes you see everyone else repost
https://time.com/4884132/affirmative-action-civil-rights-white-women/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/06/29/affirmative-action-who-benefits-white-women/70371219007/ https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11682950/fisher-supreme-court-white-women-affirmative-action https://www.acluok.org/sites/default/files/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Affirmative-Action-Mythbusters.pdf
My man you said he never said “prowling blacks” that’s a direct fucking quote. If you need someone to watch an hour and a half video to say “actually it wasn’t racist” it’s not because you care about saying actually the comment wasn’t racist you’re trying to ambush someone with so much shit they get knocked off the original point. It’s a common debate strategy problem is it’s not working here dude.
I didn’t say he never said that, you alluded to him calling all black people prowling blacks. I said he called the ones that actually prowl and assault white people prowlers. There’s a difference. And “my brain gets overwhelmed by all the context of a conversation” isn’t the argument you think it is. If you can’t handle an entire argument then you don’t get to have one lol
“He didn’t call black people prowling blacks.” *inserts direct quote of him saying that* “you don’t understand that quote isn’t him actually saying it and when I said he didn’t say it I didn’t use the word never and I’m totally not playing the semantics game rn.” That’s how you sound rn. And also nice straw man at the end there.
I’m not sure you know what a straw man is lol because you literally said I was trying to confuse you by using literal context. And again, believe it or not, there’s a difference between saying an entire race is doing something (what you implied he did) and calling out that there are people committing racially motivated assaults
“If you need someone to watch an hour and a half video to say ‘actually it wasn't racist’ it's not because you care about saying actually the comment wasn't racist you're trying to ambush someone with so much shit they get knocked off the original point.” Word for word what you said. I also never said you needed 1.5 hr, all you need to watch is a 10 min conversation max. It’s not too much to ask of someone who wants to criticize someone’s opinion for them to actually know what that opinion is
No it was a strawman because I know damn well that you only care about using hours of “context” not because it actually makes someone’s language not racist but because you’re trying to overwhelm with information that isn’t even always relevant. And when you say “prowling blacks” that language is about a group of people a group of people you need to fear because they are dangerous. That language is racist. You’re trying to explain it away it’s still racist. You tried to say he never said those
I never said he didn’t say those words lol, I said the cherry picked quotes you and everyone are bringing do not represent the argument he was making. You are never going to win the argument that knowing the context of what a conversation was about as well as what was said before and after is not important to understand the point made.
Lol except it’s not. The whole point was how a company instated a quota to hire specifically black people and women. And his point was how quotas create doubts about qualifications. His example just combines the two criteria United Airlines gave for their diversity quota. And this is why context matters. The man has like 5000 hours of content available online and people continuously use the same 5 cherry-picked quotes without context. It’s not a smart argument
They wanted 50% of their pilots to be black or a woman. That’s by definition a quota. And regardless of if they are all still qualified OR whether you agree with Charlie’s premise or not, it’s literally not racist to hold the opinion that if you create a hiring criteria based on a race or gender quote, it leads to distrust in qualifications.
Islamism is a US government recognized security threat. That’s not up for dispute no matter how unsexy it sounds to western ears who try to be tolerant of all. Saying Islamism is a threat to the west is like saying stepping in a nail hurts. Even radical Islam themselves say they’re a threat to the west
it’s the fact that you’re referring to islam the religion as islamism and muslims (the people who practice islam) as islam. you’re clearly not well versed in history, which deals with facts, but instead you have clearly fallen for decades of propaganda. i don’t know why anyone is still trying to get you to see the light. there is clearly no hope. have fun being a hateful, ignorant bigot and have the day you deserve!
You can keep calling people hateful ignorant bigots but then you ignore the truth your words mean nothing. Islamism IS radical Islam, only practiced by Muslims and is explicitly condoned by the doctrine itself. Not every Muslim practices it, but if they are at all religious then they accept the premise whether they act upon it themselves or not