Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 6d

Which is to say, in name only.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 6d

Also don’t take this as me saying the Strasserites were any better than the Hitlerites, they were still Nazis, they were still violently antisemitic, authoritarian, and in favor of rearmament and territorial expansion.

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Anonymous #1 6d

why did they call themselves socialists then?

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Anonymous OP 6d

Alr eat the urinal cake buddy.

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Anonymous OP 6d

to trick people into thinking they were socialists since socialism was quite popular at the time

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Anonymous OP 6d

Who got put in the camps first? Who were the first camps originally opened for?

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 6d

So you’re telling hate groups will lie about their actual desires to make themselves more palatable to the public?

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Anonymous #4 6d

of supporters at the time) and basically re-coined the term to solely mean for the greater good (as long as that greater good was for the aryan race and getting rid of everyone else). the nazis we’re vehemently opposed to communism and marxism and targeted supporters specifically. so, socialist only by nature of having an entirely different definition of socialism

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 6d

I would argue North Korea is more democratic than the Nazis were socialist but otherwise spot on

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Anonymous xi.jinping 6d

1% vs 2% ah difference

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Anonymous #1 6d

that’s literally twice as much lmao

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 6d

I’m well aware but at the same time we are talking a rlly small amount in a grand scheme.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yes? That’s a known tactic of hate groups?

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Anonymous OP 6d

Well yeah, most people aren’t gonna get on board with voting for the Kill Everyone Party, so fascists have to hide their intentions through a number of propaganda tactics. That’s how it works.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 6d

They wouldn’t even talk about the holocaust calling it the final solution. They’d never say they were killing Jews even when inpower. Even at secret meetings.

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Anonymous #1 6d

Do they also do it to try to paint their enemies as evil for opposing their good desires?

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Anonymous OP 6d

Are you gonna say well republicans are the good guys and dems just are the evil boogie man who slanders them against their noble cause to help ppl?

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Anonymous #4 6d

socialism essentially meant extreme racialized nationalism while maintaining stratification “According to Spengler, true socialism would be in the form of corporatism, stating that "local corporate bodies organised according to the importance of each occupation to the people as a whole; higher representation in stages up to a supreme council of the state; mandates revocable at any time; no organised parties, no professional politicians, no periodic elections".”

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yeah, that’s what most groups with a specific set of interests do. For this tactic to be worthy of condemnation those interests have to be bad. The people in the opposition parties who were calling the Nazis evil were right, the Nazis calling everyone else evil were wrong.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Propaganda, and demonization of the enemy, is a morally neutral thing. Just like violence. The morality of it comes down to the reasons behind it, not the act itself. I can see the “gotcha” you’re setting up, and it just doesn’t work. If you look at wartime propaganda from the Axis demonizing the Allies, and the Allies demonizing, the rhetoric is pretty similar. But one is correct, and one is wrong. Because of the context.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 6d

So antifa could very well be doing the same thing

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