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og_beer

I don’t think people fully grasp the issue of the “Americans read at 8th grade level” stat. This means average Americans can’t understand bias, identify manipulation, understand how perspectives change information, or ID their own internal thought models
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Anonymous 4w

And statistically, at least some of you are at or below average 👀👀👀👀👀

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Anonymous 4w

That’s so embarrassing as a country. Not to flex but I was reading at a 12th grade level from 7th grade onward, but I also received education from a “liberal” state so maybe that’s why 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous 4w

Beats the UK

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Anonymous 4w

Jokes on you, over half of my city is functionally illiterate. It’s totally not a product of systemic racism, redlining, segregation, bulldozing 70 blocks of black neighborhoods and cemeteries to build a university, bulldozing through black neighborhoods to build a highway, selling crack to predominantly black neighborhoods, and removing what little community is left in said neighborhoods after driving down property values to purchase everything for pennies on the dollar and jacking up rent

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Anonymous 4w

Is this why talking to anyone makes me want to sh**t myself?

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Anonymous 4w

this hurts me, tremendously. i can’t imagine not reading/listening and analysing at the same time

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Anonymous 4w

i’ve heard stories from high school teachers that they still need to teach some “on level” students still needed to learn the alphabet like-

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Anonymous 4w

Isn’t it more like 3rd grade level?

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Anonymous 4w

Honestly pretty good considering what literacy rates were at a couple decades ago

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

I was reading at the same level in 6th in a red state and deep red county

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Part of the issue is in-group thinking makes people believe “well that’s just an issue for the other side”, especially when they themselves didn’t struggle. It exists unilaterally. Like 2 said, I was an extremely advanced reader despite being in a deeply red state, county, school district, etc. Underfunded inner city school districts are in deeply blue areas yet tend to be well below average (5th grade reading level there iirc)

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 4w

I think it’s bound to be more difficult to learn as a kid in a red state nowadays when they’ve quite literally banning high grade level literature like of mice and men, adventures of huckleberry Finn, to kill a mocking bird, and many other valuable pieces of literature from English classes and from school libraries altogether in many southern cities. They’re setting kids up to fail far more often in those states in my opinion

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

Average is 7-8, majority is 6th (54%)

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

You gotta also remember this is like one random school in hodunk town trying to ban these because one Mama Tammie got mad, it’s not everywhere below Maryland trying to eradicate them. (Media literacy skills of identifying bias and frequency effect coming in clutch here). Hell To Kill a Mockingbird is on most states required reading list (in mine it’s all 8th graders must read it). And while these literary works are vitally important, we can learn literacy and skills from other works.

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 4w

🙏🏼 we need to update our statistics for this, with increasing coverage of different areas, ages, race, etc… the ~50% at or below a 3rd grade or lower was from a study like 10 years ago I think

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 4w

Me

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

I am reading at a 5 year old level 😎

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

I was reading at the same level in kindergarten so

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

Oh and totally not because the city bombed black homes, killing a few but making over 200 people homeless

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 4w

Adding to this that this isn’t just the South, and acting like it is is not productive. Look at places like Idaho and Montana. Shit they tried to ban Persepolis in a Long Island district recently. We gotta acknowledge there’s an attack on education and literacy at a national level, it’s not just conveniently limited to places we traditionally look down on. https://longislandadvocate.com/long-island-districts-in-the-thick-of-book-banning-crisis/

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4w

It’s certainly not a “just the south” thing. TKAM was originally being called for bans from NAACP chapters for “promoting racism” all the way back in the 80s. It’s not a new thing, and very much not a polar thing. And let’s not forget the overall fiasco no child left behind policies left us in for overall educational success

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

same here, reading at a college level in 7th grade, in a deep red and very rural area.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 4w

My brother is a middle school teacher, he went from teaching SPED years ago to teaching gifted and regular students now, he says the regular students today are pretty much around the level of SPED students who only have learning disabilities (not those who are severely disabled), it’s pretty damn bad

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 4w

People born like 2007ish onwards are definitely fucked bc most schools stopped teaching phonics by the time they got there, so kids genuinely cannot read. They taught sight words and “use context clues”. So yes, highschool teachers are literally having to teach kids how to read. I was actually never taught long division in school, or long multiplication. My dad had to teach it to me. So by the time I got into pre calc (honors, mind you) my teacher had to teach the class how to multiply

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 4w

For like 6 years worth of math half the class had to ask teachers “can you show us how to solve this using lattice method too?” And ofc when you get into pre calc and learn to divide polynomials, or advanced calculus and you’re multiplying vectors, ya can’t fucking use lattice. This was AP Calculus, these were incredibly bright kids in my class with me. They were literally just never taught how to do basic math. I imagine it’s the same with reading rn

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