Anonymous kookies 4d

lol it’s like they think we’re fooled by the laziest cover for racism you’ve ever seen. You ever hear them talk about how “the painter was right”? Like bruh we know who the painter is.

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Anonymous #3 4d

What would that be

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Anonymous #3 4d

*Undocumented migrants not included

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Anonymous OP 4d

The country is called united states of america not united states of illegal immigrants. Americans first

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Anonymous OP 4d

The “painter was right” comments are jokes because it’s supposed to be really obvious and just like a “god damn it, not again” thing. It’s not a genuine antisemitism thing. Ironically a lot of Jewish people make those same jokes, the same way a lot of racial groups make fun of themselves and eachother. It’s kinda just a stupid bonding thing, but if you don’t jibe with it, just avoid those people. (Clearly they need to learn their crowd…)

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Anonymous #3 4d

Post ancestry.com family tree heritage

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Anonymous #3 4d

Not sure why these guys want illiterate, non English speaking, low wage earners to fill up our country when they have wonderful places to live already

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Anonymous #6 4d

My original post, exhibit A^

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Anonymous OP 4d

Saying “I hate non-whites” is fewer characters. Just say that

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Anonymous OP 4d

“You don’t want uncontrolled migration therefore you’re a far right extremist”

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Anonymous OP 4d

I wouldn’t want Serbians or Albanians coming here either lol

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Anonymous #6 4d

It’s describing any immigrant as “illiterate” that makes the mask slip “Low wages” is an odd adjective to use, we could raise the minimum wage though (to put Americans first) And “non English speaking”. By and large, they speak more languages than Americans do. We’re the illiterate ones

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Anonymous OP 4d

Why are you assuming all immigrants are illiterate?

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Anonymous #6 4d

Those were your words

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Anonymous OP 4d

I don’t think all of them are, I just don’t like the ones that are, we should be selective of who we allow in our country so we don’t accidentally let gang members in or criminals

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Anonymous #3 4d

Immigrants are what’s best for a America

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Anonymous #7 4d

What can an immigrant do that someone born here can’t (or possibly do better, given that they grew up in the society they would be having to work within, which would make them fundamentally better off in trying to navigate American society)

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Anonymous #5 4d

We have a lot of people here who are out of jobs because of ai and lack of education and all of America’s own issues, what will bringing new people in do

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Anonymous #7 4d

How are immigrants that can’t sustain themselves good for America?

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Anonymous #6 4d

They bring their cuisine and their culture, which strengthens our society. Honestly and with absolutely 0 sarcasm. The best part of American culture is getting tacos for breakfast, pasta for lunch, and curry for dinner

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Anonymous OP 4d

If they all acted like that I wouldn’t have any issue, and I agree that we should have controlled immigration so we get those people and not the middle aged Somali guy with an IQ so low he can’t stand trial for rape

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Anonymous OP 4d

You ever been to a food festival and get a samosa in one hand and banh mi in the other? That’s America at it’s best

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Anonymous OP 4d

Hell yeah. I love a good samosa. Got to make a ton with a buddy of mine for a fair stand where we sold that and mango lassi but. Idk if that’s my fave if I’m honest. Something about the sour and dairy makes my lactose intolerant soul very sad

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Anonymous #5 4d

Then there’s the cultural fusion. Like music from all different cultures that comes together here and makes its own thing. That’s the beauty of America. It couldn’t happen without immigration

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Anonymous OP 4d

I think the issue people have with immigration isn’t so much the cultural aspect as the “we don’t need more people in our already collapsing country”

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Anonymous #5 4d

Then why don’t we kick the nazis out and make room?

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Anonymous #1 4d

We can’t even kick out rapists and murders you really gonna say get rid of regular Americans so other people can live here?

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Anonymous #5 4d

What do you mean by our country is collapsing?

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Anonymous #6 4d

NAZIS ARE NOT REGULAR AMERICANS WTF

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Anonymous #1 4d

Who do you consider nazis lol

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Anonymous OP 4d

A lot of our money is going towards things that are not in the country’s best interests and people are stuck, unable to climb out of poverty, for instance. The way AI is circulating money is almost sure to cause another depression, and harboring MORE people will only make the scramble for jobs harder for everyone when shit hits the fan. Its noy a race thing, which is ehat a lot of people seem to think it is, its just that immigrants arent coming in eith money.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Do you not think things are falling apart at the seams? Between all the American born citizens STILL facing money violence issues? Or the does ward spiral of the value of a US Dollar? Economic or social..things arent looking good for anyone who isnt rich and famous

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Anonymous #1 4d

I mean that would be ideal, but to kick someone out on Ideals would put you in the position of allowing the Government to decide which morals and values are “okay” To have in a country…and I’m sure you can see where that may go

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Anonymous #5 4d

I agree with those economic concerns, but any policy that tries to address them is labeled as “socialism”. For example, raising taxes on the wealthy would go a long way to funding programs. One that comes to mind is FDR’s New Deal. These federal programs helped drag our economy out of the Great Depression. Imagine a modern policy proposal like that. (The green new deal comes to mind)

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Anonymous OP 4d

We could raise taxes on the wealthy and use that to fund programs that would put people to work, and drive our economy. That would address the economic concerns you’ve described, and we have history to show they work. But that kind of federal policy doesn’t get passed today

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Anonymous OP 4d

We could. But it won’t happen, because no one in a government seat is going to want to intentionally tax themselves more. Idk about the socialist thing, I think the fear that many people have about that is simply because they know that the cost of these things isn’t coming out of the pockets of the wealthy, but that it’s almost strictly paid for by the middle class.

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Anonymous OP 4d

I’ll have to look into that. I just think people who are anti immigration are mostly just concerned that the constant increase in people, namely people who have no established form of money here in this new country, will add to the systems we have having to take care of the poor and will cause the middle class to have even bigger issues I guess is the whole thing.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Big issue with the green new deal I could see, without looking too far, is that paying the people who would get jobs out of it would be genuinely more expensive than just using fuels that are worse for the environment

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Anonymous #5 4d

But that expense that you’re describing is the cost of employment. Essentially we have identified the same economic issue, wage stagnation, wealth disparity, elevated cost of living. We both agree that there’s a scarcity of jobs. I’d argue that we need to increase the supply of jobs, rather than lower the demand.

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Anonymous OP 4d

It is! I agree, but. Why would energy companies want to move to a business that is going to cost them more. We’re talking rich people, after all. It’s not so much a disagreement as a “that’s really wishful thinking, but I’m afraid that billionaires don’t really care, or they would have done something about it by now on their own.”

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Anonymous OP 4d

Hate to rain on everyone’s parade but, unfortunately, the people in charge, who put money in politicians pockets and who kinda run the world..? Not great people.

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Anonymous #5 4d

The federal government could be a tool to help the middle class, not the 1%. Teddy Roosevelt modeled that well with trust busting. It can be done. A large reason why the federal government acts in the interest of the 1% and not the middle class is economic corruption (in particular, the Citizens United ruling made that so rampant). We don’t have to accept that the federal government serves the richest Americans at the cost of the middle class, that’s a policy decision

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Anonymous OP 4d

And I’ll point out, Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican. There’s no reason we need to work around the federal government serving the richest. The Clayton antitrust act was passed just over 100 years ago, it can be done today

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Anonymous OP 4d

It can be, but people need to band together and vote for someone who doesn’t have those interests and organizing that is easier said than done. I think the protesting is getting people in the mind space needed to think together more for certain, but it isn’t enough on its own, especially when it causes the working class to rally against the other half of the working class rather than their actual opponent.

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Anonymous OP 4d

I like how much faith you have in people, and I hope you can hang onto it. It isn’t easy to be that way, with the way the world works.

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Anonymous #5 4d

I would agree. To that end, the demonization of immigrants as the cause for our economic woes is a distraction that keeps that organization from happening. From MAGA, to centrists, to Bernie bros, we’re all angry about economic stagnation. We’re just too divided and fighting each other. Distracted by scapegoating, we could be a unified front. Then we’d get policy to help the middle class passed. But it would require unity of focus. We’re more alike than we let on. That’s where the power is

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Anonymous #5 4d

We have history to show that the world doesn’t have to work to serve the richest. Relatively recent history. We are missing a great deal of class consciousness. Too caught up fighting each other to fight the people responsible for that economic stagnation

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Anonymous OP 4d

Id reckon we all would be in a pretty good place if we were just simply better at empathizing eachother’s differnt ideas of achieving goals, but that is complicated and people don’t like having to think in a way that they deeply oppose, because it’s REAAALY uncomfortable to have to realize that everything you once knew was so multifaceted

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Anonymous OP 4d

I mean I think the biggest point of difference is just literally how will we fix it, and as I was saying, I think a lot of people who are anti immigration are really just concerned that the immigrants will only add fuel to the fire in some way or another. Immigrants are VERY strongly opinionated and patriotic, for better AND worse.

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Anonymous #3 4d

“we just want what’s best america” Glad to see we have the most intelligent minds speaking on this issue

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Anonymous #8 4d

Glad that we don’t have the ability to use context clues to figure out what people mean, and then respond to it in a way that reflects the intent to genuinely discuss what is “best for America” and not just be a massive wanker with a superiority complex over the misuse of autocorrect.

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Anonymous #5 4d

“Oi yew! Yeh yew, why yew ov’r ‘ere being a bit of a wanker ay?”

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Anonymous #5 4d

Like I’m sorry but you can’t change these people’s minds with logic if they themselves didn’t logic their way into a position. The best you can do is make it socially unacceptable to be a fascist

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Anonymous #8 4d

None of those things were actually addressed, you were just making fun of the way someone texts (which was an obvious mistake) in the same way you are now with me. You can’t seriously think that you and people who think exactly like you are the only ones who have put any logic into how they think, and thus are deserving of an opinion? If you want to fight fascism, go protest, go punch nazis, don’t waste your time insulting superficial shit like spelling errors and appearances. Do something.

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Anonymous #5 4d

Buddy, if only you knew what I did regularly. I am doing shit, and often Never said they can’t have an opinion. All I said was that it is an opinion that was not logically developed

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