Anonymous landtrust 11w

2 is not a communication issue. They’re illiberal.

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Anonymous OP 11w

Why does illiberal equal fascist?

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

By being illiberal…

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Anonymous OP 11w

Where’d you get that idea from? Wasn’t in any classical liberalism books I’ve read

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Hinkle might be able to tell you why.

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Anonymous OP 11w

Not a fan of that guy anymore

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

The fact that you were a fan at all shows you don’t really have a leg to stand on here.

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Anonymous OP 11w

Or maybe it shows self awareness and growth

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

No longer shitting my pants at the age of 22 isn’t so much growth as it is about begging the question…why were you shitting your pants in the first place?

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Anonymous OP 11w

Idk what to tell you, you just gotta find a way to let go of all the hate in your heart

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Anonymous landtrust 11w

Nah. Leftists and fascists can hold hands together up against the wall.

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Anonymous #2 11w

Mamdani is the GOAT

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Anonymous #2 11w

You pointed out 2 out of 535 and that’s just in congress. Maybe the trend will change but you guys are not politically effective.

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Anonymous #2 11w

All 3 of them ran under the Democratic Party though? If they weren’t Democrats, why wouldn’t they run third party.

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Anonymous blue__wave 11w

Idk if you’ve noticed, but all the people I listed have been fucked over by the DNC multiple times. They’re fighting an uphill battle not just against conservatives, but against liberals too Like Jeffries and Schumer haven’t even endorsed the guy who won the democratic primary for mayor of NYC when BOTH OF THEM ARE FROM NY

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Anonymous #4 11w

They’re democratic socialist that’s the difference it’s not a party difference (except for sanders in some cases) it’s an ideological difference.

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Anonymous #2 11w

Yeah they can endorse whoever they want I agree it’s cringe, but do you know what having an uphill battle means? It’s another way of saying you aren’t politically effective you can cope over it if you want.

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Anonymous blue__wave 11w

They could easily run under any name besides the Democratic one if they were so opposed to liberalism though, no? De La Cruz ran under the PSL and not the Democratic Party. There are some points I understand what OP is saying and others I disagree with.

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Anonymous blue__wave 11w

Uphill battle just means there are a lot of odds against you, not that you can’t get shit done

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Anonymous #4 11w

Yeah they could I don’t think they’re opposed to liberalism other than private property stuff if I had to guess. I think OP is referring more to authoritarian left people rather than sanders or whatever but they could clarify. I think not being associated with a party kinda kills you especially on federal level elections.

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Anonymous #2 11w

Well not when you’re using the “up hill battle” to justify not getting shit done. If you got shit done you wouldn’t need the justification.

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Anonymous blue__wave 11w

To me, I think that’s OPs point though. It’s not like Democrats or Republicans were handed their bases. They had to work for them. If leftists want to be taken seriously, they either have to compromise with Democrats or start coalition building for a national party.

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Anonymous #4 11w

I think third party is dumb bc whatever wing splits up will never win a presidential election again. Meaning they’ll also not get Supreme Court seats, among other things. If you’re a democratic socialist just vote democrat.

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Anonymous blue__wave 11w

I’m not using it as an excuse, I’m using it as an explanation as to why it is harder for leftist policy to get through. There is a difference

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Anonymous #2 11w

Then that’s a good explanation for why they aren’t politically effective.

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Anonymous blue__wave 11w

It’s very hard to be politically effective when basically both parties are against you. Do you think that the corporate milquetoast dems want people in there who actually challenge their power? No, they’re happy with their insider trading

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Anonymous #2 11w

As I said, you either compromise or you fight for your 3rd party.

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Anonymous #4 11w

I’m not going to compromise on the fact healthcare is a human right. Infiltrating the Democratic Party and radically transforming it is the best way to go about it

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Anonymous #2 11w

Idk why we keep changing the goal post from are they politically effective to is it hard for them? I just don’t think Americans have this huge leftist appetite that everyone acts like they have.

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Anonymous #2 11w

You realize dems have consistently pushed for universal healthcare even the super moderate bill Clinton did idk why we’re acting like that isn’t a democrat policy. The main policy disagreements leftist have is foreign policy and moderate dems are capitalist and that’s about it.

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