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i literally cannot take anyone who tells me voting for biden, harris or newsom meaningfully stops fascism when biden did nothing to stop trumps progressive resurgence
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Anonymous 5d

I respectfully disagree.

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Anonymous 6d

This is such a dumb argument. You may not get exactly want you want but literally anything is better than Trump.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

When there are two genocidal candidates. One is no better than other. You just want the one that personally inconveniences you less

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

I want the one that isn’t going to result in violence against my fellow Americans. Who isn’t going to stripped my rights away. Who will ensure there is an election in 2032. That literally anyone aside from Trump or Vance. Your ideal candidate doesn’t exist, get over it

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

i didn’t say i needed everything i wanted. biden didn’t even do 1% of what is REQUIRED to stop fascism in this country, which is what libs claim to care abt. u can’t vote shame people into saying trumps worse while nominating a candidate who can’t do the most basic things to oppose the thing you say is worse

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

vote shame people and say trumps worse *

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

HE IS FUCKING WORSE. Get that through your thick skull. Significantly worse. And you are going to hand over the future of this country to him. And then we’re screwed and you can explain to your kids how you failed to do you duty to protect their futures

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

Worse FOR YOU. To the victims of the genocide you are willing to overlook they are the same. You are willing to overlook genocide so long as the candidate that inconveniences you less is elected.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

there is quite literally no person in america more responsible for the current era of fascism in america than joe biden but ur not ready for that conversation. YOUR DEFERENCE to centrist losers are what have handed off our futures to trump, not the suffering voters asking for a bit more than “trump bad”

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

You stand on your pedestal of self righteous while everyone burns around you. I don’t give a fuck about what happens in other countries right now. Our country is a risk. Our homes, our neighbors.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

is that not what ur also doing? ur acting holier than thou for supporting people that don’t gaf abt you and failed this country at one of the most crucial moments. while people suffer, ur transferring blame away from the people who handed trump the baton

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

That’s objectively false and you know it. Really? Was it the centrist who didn’t vote in 2016? Or 2024? No, it would be you entitled brats who take for granted the freedom you were born with.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

and i wanna emphasize handed the baton. any sane country or actual competent liberals would arrest trump for jan 6 and bar him from ever running. but instead they slowed investigations, preserved an unpopular status quo and ran cover for a president who couldn’t speak

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

it was the centrists who ran horrific, uninspiring opposition campaigns that handed off 2 elections to a pedo, yes

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

I’m willing to compromise. We’re the voters. We have the fucking power. We the motherfucking people. Not we the politicians. We are responsible for getting ourselves out of the situation. Your self righteous bullshit handed him the baton you entitled fuck.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

In your ideal world yes, but we don’t fucking live there.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

btw i voted for harris but that doesn’t mean i can’t acknowledge her role in how we got here

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

Got it must be nice to be so privileged that you can afford to not give a damn.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

Okay Dean Browning. Anyone can pretend to have done anything on the internet

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

They literally tried to arrest him for Jan 6 and it didn’t work.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

criticizing the people in power asking for my vote is actually one of the most fundamental aspects of being in a democracy, not being “privileged”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

also just now noticed ur comment of framing the arrest of someone who committed treason by overthrowing an election is just in a fantasy ideal world, which is false. there are numerous historical and recent examples of this exact thing - literally just happened in south korea (a much younger and should be less sophisticated democracy).

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

Sometimes we, the marginalized people you claim to be allies with, are the ones asking you to vote a certain way because it protects us from harm. When you don’t do so because you don’t think it helps us or others, you’re harming us for your own political priorities, even if that decision doesn’t meaningfully help your own priorities either

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

You don’t get a fucking choice. This isn’t your perfect world so grow up and stop acting like a damn child. Hate to break it to you but nobody has ever gotten their ideal candidate. Criticize them all you want as you should but don’t screw the rest of us

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

Scratch “protects us from harm”. It meaningfully reduces the harm we’re subject to. We aren’t ever fully protected, but there are meaningful reductions

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

what’s privileged is saying everyone can afford to endure the consequences of right wing democrats that do nothing besides pave the way for fascism to follow.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

Not here bitch. We’ve had the option multiple times and haven’t

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

they literally did *not* do that

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

My political priorities are to get that facist pig out of power. That is my only damn priority right now

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

if dems don’t wanna provide choices then i dont need to provide my vote bb that’s how democracy works

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

My family and friends who are now under threat of deportation disagree…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

Are you fucking stupid? Nothing the democrats will do will be worse than what’s going on. Get over yourself and swallow your fucking pride like your mother should’ve done with you

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

you’re doing the exact opposite of what your alleged goals are

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

who tf are u to say u speak for all marginalized people (i am one too btw), there are plenty of poc or queer randos online i could say agree with me but that doesn’t mean my argument is more correct 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 6d

i feel bad for your family and friends and wish the dems had ran a competent and inspiring campaign that would’ve averted this mess

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

My goals are for the betterment of my fellow Americans. To be honest, none of this shit effects me. I have the privilege to not care at all who’s president. And if you wanna screw everyone else? Be my guest

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

you’re missing a broader issue. dems are nominally “better” than republicans, that’s is correct. the problem is that they aren’t sufficient enough to actually BEAT fascism.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

I can speak to the data that shows this presidency and it’s goals will disproportionately affect those marginalized people far more than any recent democrat candidate

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

Jokes on you, my family and friends agree. They don’t need your pity.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

#1, the centrist dems you run cover for are literally the people who got us in this mess. your deference to them is what screwed everyone

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

You’re so right, let’s just open the fucking door and roll the carpet out for it

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

I’m not even entertaining the mental gymnastics you used to justify that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

your family agreeing with you doesn’t make u right oml😭it is just objectively true that bidens failure to govern well or hold trump accountable helped him reemerge. that’s not a matter of opinion

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 6d

“mental gymnastics” and it’s just me explaining the most simple idea ever

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

That wasn’t what I said.. I was responding to your pathetic attack. THAT DOESNT FUCKING MEAN WE SHOULD ROLL OVER AND LET TRUMP RUN THE COUNTRY AGAIN

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

I’m sure it is in your pea brain

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 6d

I wish they ran a better campaign too. But when that fails, we just have to use them as a vehicle against harm. The writing was on the wall, clear as day, for what would happen to marginalized populations under Trump. There was no evidence it would happen on the same scale under Harris, but people equated the two

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