Anonymous #1 6w

If you cared for your children you wouldn’t let them catch a preventable infectious disease. Vaccines objectively work. If someone doesn’t want to live in reality, that’s their problem, but their kids shouldn’t suffer because of that

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Anonymous #1 6w

I could not care less about intentions when they kill or permanently disable their children with Measles

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Anonymous #2 6w

That’s their choice tbh, like you don’t have to teach your kid how to fight if you live in a rough neighborhood, but you should. I’m against their decision but I don’t think the government has any right to interfere in it

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Anonymous #1 6w

Child Protective Services should free the kid from the abusive anti-vax household and give the kid to the closest of kin who won’t abuse them. Saying the government doesn’t have a right to stop this implies that they don’t have a right to stop other forms of child abuse.

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Anonymous OP 6w

I would be for the parent shooting cpp workers or anyone that tries taking their kid away for that, I’d help them

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Anonymous #1 6w

Then you’re pro-child abuse

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Anonymous #1 6w

Don’t shift the goalposts. We are talking about if not vaccinating your child is abuse, not if vaccines should be mandatory

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Anonymous #2 6w

It’s the same result, enforced vaccination. The abuse angle is just a roundabout way of getting to the former and duplicitous

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Anonymous #1 6w

Mandatory Vaccines is a good idea btw

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Anonymous OP 6w

I’m not, but not vaccinating your children isn’t child abuse. People like you are straight up authoritarian fascists, same as the people trying to ban abortion. It’s up to the person to choose, not you. And any American with common sense would shoot the people trying to force what you’re advocating. If you want to see mass violence and actual abuse, implementing those policies is a sure fire way to get it

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Anonymous #1 6w

Not vaccinating your child is, objectively, child abuse.

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Anonymous #1 6w

Again, we aren’t talking about policy, we are talking about if it morally is or is not child abuse. You keep wanting to switch it over to if the gov has the legal right to do so or not, when that is not at all what the conversation is

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Anonymous OP 6w

Okay then you’re the same type that thinks abortion is murder. Abuse is active harm, not vaccinating is dumb but it is not abuse, abuse is beating/starving/assaulting your child. You don’t care about abuse, you care about manipulating the term to serve your authoritarian ends

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Anonymous #1 6w

Not protecting your kid against preventable diseases is actively harming them. That is abuse you room temp IQ dumbass.

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Anonymous #1 6w

Wait a min, by your own definition of abuse that would exclude verbal abuse or financial abuse. Are you just pro some forms of abuse?

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Anonymous #2 6w

The policy is the conversation I’ve had from the beginning, you are pretending it’s about morality but abuse is a legal term with policy behind it and you people were dumb enough to even go into explicit policies you’d advocate for kidnapping children from parents who don’t want to vaccinate their children. It is 100% about policy and you are being a deceitful snake

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Anonymous #1 6w

Not vaccinating your child is absolutely actively causing harm

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Anonymous #1 6w

I think children should be mandated to be vaccinated, and if their parents are vehemently opposed to that then they are simply unfit to be parents. What gives you the right to damn your child to diptheria? Just because you stuck your dick somewhere or spread your legs? Fuck outta here.

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Anonymous #1 6w

“Abloo bloo, parental rights” I’m sorry, but no, the ability to have sex does not mean you know what’s best for your child. I’ve known some dumb fuckin people who’ve managed to get laid, I don’t care if that child is yours by comception, that doesn’t give you full sovereignty over everything that happens to that child.

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Anonymous #1 6w

You still haven’t answered why you left verbal and financial abuse out of your definition btw

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Anonymous #1 6w

If you don’t let your kid get the mono vaccine, your kid died from mono, that should be manslaughter. Every fucking opportunity to save that child’s life but anti vaxxers don’t believe in real science

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Anonymous #1 6w

“In 2023, about 4.8 million children less than 5 years of age died, and another 2.1 million deaths occurred in individuals 5 to 24 years of age” most of these were preventative if they had a vaccine (this is global, but the point still stands)

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