Doesn’t even realize that artists are literally something people live and breathe daily The chair you’re on was designed by someone, the apartment complex you live in, the logo of your workplace, the jingle on the commercial, the cinematography and editing of that same commercial, the notebook you’re writing stuff in, the computer program you use for calculations, the phone you’re holding, the car you drive Almost anything someone interacts with is art related. But ig yeah get rid of the arts
Yes, psychiatrists are better than psychologists because they are able to give people medications and treat more complex cases than psychologists. Think of a psychologist as just being purely a step below a psychiatrist. Basically, if your psychologist can’t help you, then you see a psychiatrist because they have more expertise in the field 😃
Yes, if the government is giving BILLIONS of dollars in grants and aid to subsidize college arts programs, that is a waste of money that could instead go to funding thousands of future-doctors and nurses educations. Doctors are more important to society than painters and dancers.
Sure, I can agree that in a utilitarian sense, doctors and lawyers are more important to society. But is it not because we live in one of the richest countries in the world that we have the privilege of even having such programs? We can easily get the money from taxes on high earners and put it towards furthering education for everyone. We don't have to cut off our nose to spite our face.
The national endowment for the arts which is government funded gets over $200 million per year which is given to universities for their arts programs. Social science programs also receive over $3.5 billion every year from the government. As far as I’m aware, this money primarily goes to just public universities, though I’m not positive on that.
You can’t just take more money from rich people that isn’t how it works. They’ll all move to Luxembourg if you try to tax them 90%. As I already said in another comment, the top 20% of earners already pay around 85% of all taxes… they are paying WELL BEYOND their fair share.
Not every client wants to bounce between medications that may or may not help. Some may not be able to take certain meds due to preexisting conditions. And sometimes the issue at hand is not serious enough to warrant treatment via medication. Psychology makes up for the faults of psychiatry, and vice versa. As a person that has dealt with more than one quack psychiatrist, you aren't necessarily smart simply because you have a degree.
They aren't being taxed at 90%. A 4% tax on earners of over $1M was tested in Massachusetts a few years ago called the Fair Share Amendment and the state was able to provide funding for all levels of education from K-12 to college and transportation within the state. While it resulted in a lot of people leaving the state it was a boon that boosted the state economy. It can be tweaked to make it more equitable. And they're already moving out regardless of what you tax them. Offshore accounts?
Psychiatrists have more expertise than psychologists, they studied their particular field for more than twice as long as a psychologist. This isn’t to say that ALL psychiatrists are smarter than ALL psychologists, but psychiatrists should be equipped to handle more complex issues. Maybe part of the reason you’ve had bad experiences with them is because they’re over worked and stretched thin because of the shortage of doctors 😃
Ok? The point is that doctors deserve more grants and aid than sociology majors. A psychiatrist should have knowledge in sociology, like everyone else, but doesn’t necessarily use that knowledge day to day or need to be an expert sociologist to do their job? You’re kinda all over the place here socks 😂
Sorry, I just watched the Joe Rogan episode with Bernie Sanders today and he suggested taxing people making over $1mil per year 90% so that’s what was on the mind, I wasn’t specifically saying that’s what is broadly what people want to do. Also yes that makes sense, you take more money from rich people and you can do things with it. But what do you do when they all leave because you’re stealing from them? You’re just gonna drive businesses to Texas and lose out on that much more tax rev
Agreed. Trust me I’m as against credentialism as anyone you can think of, but spending 8-9 years post-grad to become a psychiatrist involves a ton of hands on experience and continued learning that give psychiatrists a ton more knowledge. Med school and residency both are hugely based on hand-on learning, it’s not like these students are just sitting in a classroom all day like undergrad
I’m not against sociology shouldn’t be taught, I’m saying sociology majors shouldn’t be allowed to go $150k into debt to get a degree they’ll never be able to pay for. My school has a whole public health department with something like 6 different classes but there isn’t a public health major… you don’t need to offer a degree in something to be able to have classes for it
Good argument Peach, I’m glad to know you’re so close-minded that you just write off the largest and most popular podcast host immediately upon mentioning his name. But I’m not super surprised you’re afraid of conversations between Joe Rogan who literally endorsed Trump and Bernie who is as far from Trump politically as American politicians get. Maybe you’d have a better understanding of the world if you did listen to conversations between two people who disagree on many things 😃
What? If you think the public health profs at my school are underpaid or underfunded you’re dead wrong 😂 again, I think classes can be offered in a wide range of subjects (soc sciences, art, Russian studies, GWS, whatever) but we shouldn’t be giving these people money they’ll never be able to give back.
Okay. So why not focus on that? And make college cheaper? Instead of just restricting people’s ability to pursue the work they want? Doesn’t that make the most sense? Like it or not, these degrees are important. Like super important for society. They just don’t make any money. Getting rid of them, or reducing their numbers, would hurt us. Making college cheaper? It wouldn’t hurt anyone.
What? For the third time, I don’t think sociology programs should go away entirely, I’m saying sociology majors aren’t very valuable (especially not to the students themselves). I’m all for giving students a broad education in multiple subjects they wouldn’t normally be into, but I’m not into letting 22 year olds take on $100k+ in debt to get a sociology major with no career prospects. Does that make sense?
"No, I'm not saying people shouldn't enroll in sociology programs, I just think there should be more roadblocks that make sociology programs more minimally funded because I personally believe they're worthless. People will want to enroll in a worthless and poorly funded program. This is fair and equitable."