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Hot take: we should take all financial aid and subsidization away from GWS, Arts, and Social science majors and give it to med school and nursing students so that our healthcare workers aren’t coming out of school 30 years old an $500k in debt.
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Anonymous 10w

I think we just give nursing and medical jobs to robots ngl

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Anonymous 10w

funny you say that when most private liberal arts and arts colleges cost more on average compared to state schools or even private tech schools but ok

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Anonymous 10w

Psychology is a social science dude. I’m sure having people in a psychotic episode running around will lead to a healthy society tho

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Anonymous 10w

Demonic brain rot

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 10w

It is the future ya know, like erm AI art

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 10w

As a nurse, that is a terrible idea.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 10w

Thank you for making that known

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Anonymous replying to -> mushy.the.mushroom 10w

Mushy you haven’t had a good take on YikYak yet from what I’ve seen. Might be a worse user than Orangutan…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Yeah man I cant imagine you’d find my takes very agreeable. Thank god.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 10w

EXACTLY!! You’re getting it now!!!

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Anonymous replying to -> mushy.the.mushroom 10w

Ok 😃

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

Psychiatry is something you go to med school for 😃 also, I’m not saying take funding away from people studying to be therapists, that’s a part of health care in my mind.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

and you’re missing my point but again ok

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Having a disdain for art is one of the single biggest red flags in a person.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

“You go to medical school for it, therefore it’s not a social science”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Psychology and psychiatry are two different fields with different approaches to similar problems. One isn't better than the other simply because you went to medical school.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

You are disguising your pittance for art as a concern that "useless diplomas" are taking away money from "important" fields.

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Anonymous replying to -> mushy.the.mushroom 10w

Doesn’t even realize that artists are literally something people live and breathe daily The chair you’re on was designed by someone, the apartment complex you live in, the logo of your workplace, the jingle on the commercial, the cinematography and editing of that same commercial, the notebook you’re writing stuff in, the computer program you use for calculations, the phone you’re holding, the car you drive Almost anything someone interacts with is art related. But ig yeah get rid of the arts

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

Yes, psychiatrists are better than psychologists because they are able to give people medications and treat more complex cases than psychologists. Think of a psychologist as just being purely a step below a psychiatrist. Basically, if your psychologist can’t help you, then you see a psychiatrist because they have more expertise in the field 😃

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

You may be stupid Peach. Psychiatry is not really a social sciences. It’s primarily a medical science but there are definitely some social aspects to it. FAF different than having a sociology degree :)

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

Yes, if the government is giving BILLIONS of dollars in grants and aid to subsidize college arts programs, that is a waste of money that could instead go to funding thousands of future-doctors and nurses educations. Doctors are more important to society than painters and dancers.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Where did you read that they specifically give that much to college art programs? Is this every school, or for the private schools that don't recieve federal funding?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Sure, I can agree that in a utilitarian sense, doctors and lawyers are more important to society. But is it not because we live in one of the richest countries in the world that we have the privilege of even having such programs? We can easily get the money from taxes on high earners and put it towards furthering education for everyone. We don't have to cut off our nose to spite our face.

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

The national endowment for the arts which is government funded gets over $200 million per year which is given to universities for their arts programs. Social science programs also receive over $3.5 billion every year from the government. As far as I’m aware, this money primarily goes to just public universities, though I’m not positive on that.

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

You can’t just take more money from rich people that isn’t how it works. They’ll all move to Luxembourg if you try to tax them 90%. As I already said in another comment, the top 20% of earners already pay around 85% of all taxes… they are paying WELL BEYOND their fair share.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Wait do you think psychiatrists don’t work with some level of sociology in their profession?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Not every client wants to bounce between medications that may or may not help. Some may not be able to take certain meds due to preexisting conditions. And sometimes the issue at hand is not serious enough to warrant treatment via medication. Psychology makes up for the faults of psychiatry, and vice versa. As a person that has dealt with more than one quack psychiatrist, you aren't necessarily smart simply because you have a degree.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

You can just say you don't understand psychiatry *or* psychology and spare yourself the embarrassment.

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

Sociology and psychiatry are dealing with two separate areas entirely. Sociology looks at the middle 95% of people, the regular people, while psychiatry deals with the edge cases, the top or bottom 2.5%. Think of a bell curve 😃

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

They aren't being taxed at 90%. A 4% tax on earners of over $1M was tested in Massachusetts a few years ago called the Fair Share Amendment and the state was able to provide funding for all levels of education from K-12 to college and transportation within the state. While it resulted in a lot of people leaving the state it was a boon that boosted the state economy. It can be tweaked to make it more equitable. And they're already moving out regardless of what you tax them. Offshore accounts?

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

Psychiatrists have more expertise than psychologists, they studied their particular field for more than twice as long as a psychologist. This isn’t to say that ALL psychiatrists are smarter than ALL psychologists, but psychiatrists should be equipped to handle more complex issues. Maybe part of the reason you’ve had bad experiences with them is because they’re over worked and stretched thin because of the shortage of doctors 😃

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

You can be qualified in other fields as a psychiatrist, asshat.

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

Ok? The point is that doctors deserve more grants and aid than sociology majors. A psychiatrist should have knowledge in sociology, like everyone else, but doesn’t necessarily use that knowledge day to day or need to be an expert sociologist to do their job? You’re kinda all over the place here socks 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

They have more expertise in a different regard, as psychologists do not perscribe medications. A diploma and years of schooling don't mean anything compared to on-the-field experience.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

"Like everyone else"? What are you on about?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

If a psychiatrist should have knowledge in sociology, but you want to financially discourage people from going into those fields, then why tf do you think that colleges would keep funding sociological research if people aren’t going into the field as much?

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

Sorry, I just watched the Joe Rogan episode with Bernie Sanders today and he suggested taxing people making over $1mil per year 90% so that’s what was on the mind, I wasn’t specifically saying that’s what is broadly what people want to do. Also yes that makes sense, you take more money from rich people and you can do things with it. But what do you do when they all leave because you’re stealing from them? You’re just gonna drive businesses to Texas and lose out on that much more tax rev

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

“Sorry I was watching the Joe Rogan episode-“ And there’s the explanation lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

Agreed. Trust me I’m as against credentialism as anyone you can think of, but spending 8-9 years post-grad to become a psychiatrist involves a ton of hands on experience and continued learning that give psychiatrists a ton more knowledge. Med school and residency both are hugely based on hand-on learning, it’s not like these students are just sitting in a classroom all day like undergrad

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Pfft.

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

Everyone should have a baseline knowledge of sociology is what I’m meaning 😃

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

I’m not against sociology shouldn’t be taught, I’m saying sociology majors shouldn’t be allowed to go $150k into debt to get a degree they’ll never be able to pay for. My school has a whole public health department with something like 6 different classes but there isn’t a public health major… you don’t need to offer a degree in something to be able to have classes for it

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

And how do you expect them to know what sociology is and how it operates if you defund it and discourage people from going into the field? Like why tf would a sociology professor stick around if the college is openly underfunding what they do?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Maybe sociology degrees shouldn’t cost 150k

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

Good argument Peach, I’m glad to know you’re so close-minded that you just write off the largest and most popular podcast host immediately upon mentioning his name. But I’m not super surprised you’re afraid of conversations between Joe Rogan who literally endorsed Trump and Bernie who is as far from Trump politically as American politicians get. Maybe you’d have a better understanding of the world if you did listen to conversations between two people who disagree on many things 😃

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Anonymous replying to -> mushy.the.mushroom 10w

Agreed Mushy, college is too expensive. I think we can all agree on that 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> mushy.the.mushroom 10w

It's ridiculously expensive for what you get out of it.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Holy shit dude you’re so mad, I was making a joke it’s not that deep 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

What? If you think the public health profs at my school are underpaid or underfunded you’re dead wrong 😂 again, I think classes can be offered in a wide range of subjects (soc sciences, art, Russian studies, GWS, whatever) but we shouldn’t be giving these people money they’ll never be able to give back.

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Anonymous replying to -> yellow_socks67 10w

Bro people go to my school for education where tuition is literally $60k per year to become teachers that will make $40k per year out of school. It’s INSANE that people do shit like that.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

I'm thankful I'm not spending an arm and a leg on my career I just want to talk to clients atp

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Hold on, I was asking how you expect people to understand the basics of sociology if you discourage people from going into the profession and underfund it. I wasn’t saying anything abt the public health professors at your school

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Okay. So why not focus on that? And make college cheaper? Instead of just restricting people’s ability to pursue the work they want? Doesn’t that make the most sense? Like it or not, these degrees are important. Like super important for society. They just don’t make any money. Getting rid of them, or reducing their numbers, would hurt us. Making college cheaper? It wouldn’t hurt anyone.

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

Good point

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

What? For the third time, I don’t think sociology programs should go away entirely, I’m saying sociology majors aren’t very valuable (especially not to the students themselves). I’m all for giving students a broad education in multiple subjects they wouldn’t normally be into, but I’m not into letting 22 year olds take on $100k+ in debt to get a sociology major with no career prospects. Does that make sense?

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Anonymous replying to -> mushy.the.mushroom 10w

You’re not gonna catch me arguing college should be as or more expensive than it is right now 😂 if we could make college cheaper that would be best, I just don’t know how we get to that point.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Wait sociologists are incredibly valuable. You know what’s a common branch off of sociology that people with the major go into? Criminology. Do criminologists not provide a valuable service to society?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

Saying sociology programs aren’t valuable is insane, and is reeaaaally showing your ignorance on the subject.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 10w

"No, I'm not saying people shouldn't enroll in sociology programs, I just think there should be more roadblocks that make sociology programs more minimally funded because I personally believe they're worthless. People will want to enroll in a worthless and poorly funded program. This is fair and equitable."

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Anonymous replying to -> just_peachy_ 10w

They’re really good at statistics fr

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 10w

Yeah sociologists be crunching numbers a lot

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