Anonymous #1 7w

What’s the issue with undocumented immigrants? What real issues do they cause?

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Anonymous #3 7w

That was 200 years ago tho…..

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Anonymous #2 7w

If I explain can you pinky promise not to downvote me to oblivion? I will not be even mentioning race

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Anonymous #5 7w

Goddamn Irish, coming over here, trying to vote.

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Anonymous #6 7w

Are you going to tell the full story on how he focused on violent criminals and those who newly entered the country? Or just say that he deported more without the added context so it looks similar to what Trump doing?

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Anonymous OP 7w

He did the exact thing as trump even worse. He separated kids from their parents countless of times.

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Anonymous #6 7w

Ok this conversation is over because im bit arguing with someone refusing to have an honest conversation. Goodbye

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Anonymous OP 7w

You have no rebuttal, this conversation is done because you have no reply

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Anonymous #6 7w

Obama did deport people but he followed the law about it. He offered immigrants safe travel out of the country. Donald trump is not following the law about it and instead sending his new gestapo to take them to a maximum security prison in El Salvador. THATS what we’re upset about dumbass

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Anonymous #6 7w

You are lying. Trump and his administration have said view crime as simply coming over illegally, which is why they are targeting the entire undocumented population regardless of genuine crimes committed. Obamas administration went after violent offenders and people who newly entered the country. Both did separate kids which is extremely fucked, however no they did not have the same mission. One went after violent criminals the other went after workers who had been here for 20+ years

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Anonymous #7 7w

Explain to me how a president is breaking a law. Explain to me how it’s just the president when we have a check and balance system. Explain to me how this is normal in every country but we just cry about it. Dumbass

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Anonymous #6 7w

okay here: the Judical system said it’s unconstitutional and to bring them back and trump said NO which he legally cannot do. Checks and balances isn’t a literal enforcement it’s a piece of paper that you are expected to follow and it fails when people ignore it. You know, like TRUMP. He literally has overstepped every check and balances isn’t sent his way and ignored the Supreme Court multiple times

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Anonymous #7 7w

Your information comes from bias media sources you don’t actually study this information. You are blind

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Anonymous #6 7w

No my sources come from the fucking supreme courts statement and trumps own actions of ignoring it. That’s not bias that’s straight from the president. How can you actually believe that trump cares about the law?

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Anonymous #7 7w

I’m arguing with blind liberals and I’ll never get a point across for you. Trump won the election now sit and watch for the next couple of years bc you can’t change anything

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Anonymous #6 7w

Mind you, you’re doing all of this to defend a pedophile. You’re a weirdo

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Anonymous OP 7w

Enjoy your president! Nothing you can do about it

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Anonymous #6 7w

Just say you support rape and pedophilia lol also I’m not a liberal fuckface 🤪

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Anonymous #7 7w

I’m gonna be a criminal investigator for ice

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That you for having a conversation and not belittling like a human being should!

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Anonymous #6 7w

It’s giving “one day I’m going to work for the gestapo 😍” history will not remember people like you kindly

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Anonymous #5 7w

They’re still here though?!! Check your sources next time!

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Anonymous #9 7w

Get them OUTTA HERE

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Here is an actual report of the numbers compared to Bush & Clinton. Obama actually lowered the number of deportations overall while again focusing on violent criminals and newly entered undocumented persons https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

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Anonymous #6 7w

"you have no rebuttal" for a guy who was elected when I was fucking 6 and also didn't have masked neonazi chuds abducting kids and raping women on some power fantasy

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Anonymous #6 7w

Obama didn’t have the zero tolerance policy of purposefully removing kids from their parents. He had a policy of trying not to remove the primary care giver to the child unless they were a criminal. Also when did Obama send anyone to cecot? Delusional.

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Anonymous #11 7w

You voted for a man directly involved in all three of the negative things you mentioned 💀

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Anonymous #6 7w

You can have your little parade now that trump is president but he and everyone else aiding this regime will face justice one day for all the harm casued by your vile ideology

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Anonymous #7 7w

And who’s going to do that. I used my rights to vote and my right of freedom of speech. Are you trying to infringe on my rights? Same thing you’re claiming trump to be doing?

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Anonymous #6 7w

No I’m not but the violence that has been promoted and encouraged will be punished

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Anonymous #6 7w

I need you to understand you are actively defending a man knowing he violently assaulted children. Do you not feel disgusted?

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Anonymous OP 7w

I don’t understand you tbh. You take so many things as fact with no evidence, yet I bet you supported Joe Biden even with Ashley Biden’s journal saying he showered with her. I must study your skull

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Anonymous #3 7w

OH MY GOD WE CAN CONDEMN BOTH AT THE SAME TIME WHY IS THIS HARD FOR YOU PEOPLE TO GET???? Yes Biden wasn’t good either BUT TRUMP IS A CONVICTED RAPIST

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Anonymous #3 7w

No need, here’s the solution: document them. The immigration system is not doing its job to help immigrants become naturalized it takes many people years to gain citizenship. So if we document undocumented immigrants, we can have a plan to naturalize them, we can see where they are, their history, criminal record, and all of this is cheaper than mass deportation :))

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Anonymous #7 7w

Literally isn’t a convicted rapist - he was sued in civil court by someone who said he did it like 20 years ago, and it’s shockingly similar to a TV episode on like law and order I think. They EXTENDED THE STATUTE of limitations in New York just so this suit could happen. Actually look into it, PLEASE.

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Anonymous #7 7w

If someone came here illegally, I would unironically rather deport them than let them stay

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So him managing to deport 7 million people less than in 2000 somehow means he continued to break the system? VS it clearly showing him making small steps to fix said system which we can see by the numbers? No one is perfect and Obama did many fucked up things, but what he did and what Trump is doing are very different

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Anonymous #3 7w

There is literally no other reason for this than you are racist lmfao

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Anonymous #7 7w

Yes there are. Immigrants raise housing costs, and depress wages. It is unironically in my best interest for immigrants, especially illegal ones, to be deported and prevented from seeking employment in the United States. It will raise wages, and lower housing costs

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Anonymous #3 7w

You realize that the immigrant flow into the country from 2010-2019 led to a 2% increase in wages right? “From 1980 to 2019, the researchers estimated that an increase of 10% in immigration was associated with wage increases of 0.2% for full-time U.S.-born workers and 0.3% for all U.S.-born workers. From 2000 to 2019, a 10% increase in immigration corresponded to wage increases of 0.1% for full-time U.S.-born workers and 0.2% for all U.S.-born workers.” Per American Immigration Council research

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Anonymous #7 7w

0.2% not 2

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Anonymous #11 7w

I’d like some numbers on who’s jobs are being taken by illegals Literally everything you said about crime is bullshit tho, they commit less than citizens

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Anonymous #3 7w

Yeah I’m sorry but I’m gonna need to see some sort of source if that is your claim. It’s not my view that all the “deport everyone illegal” folks are directly racist or anything, I just think that they were handed the flimsiest stand-in for a non-race reason and don’t care to seek out the truth. Trumps go to lies are that illegal immigrants increase crime or hurt the economy, although I haven’t heard much that backs up your claim either

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Anonymous #16 7w

Not to mention tech companies mainly want them because it’s easier to overwork and underpay employees when getting fired also means they could get deported

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Anonymous #3 7w

source? trust me bro

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Anonymous #17 7w

My source? This niche bible verse duh!!! They’re such clowns

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Anonymous #11 7w

yeah we should focus on minimizing drugs rape and murder. we should start with all the people in power who went to that one island where they trafficked children.

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Anonymous #16 7w

but trump admin's way of dealing with immigrants doesn't affect anyone on an h1b visa. most of those ppl are east/south asian, and currently it is latino ppl who are being deported without due process.

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Anonymous #6 7w

the people he deported were given due process. meanwhile trump admin set an arrest quota of 3,000 people per day.

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Anonymous #3 7w

its not even about illegal immigrants. there are law abiding noncitizens who dont have citizenship bc its a decade-long process who are being deported without due process. whats ur excuse for that? what about ICE rounding up ppl when they show up for their immigration court dates (which they are legally required to attend)?

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Anonymous #18 7w

I mean you have a point there but I kinda assumed we were just talking about immigration at large since OP didn’t really specify

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Anonymous OP 7w

It’s either I vote for someone I agree with half of the time or none of the time. In reality, they both are disappointments.

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Anonymous #14 7w

I’m talking about legal workers under the work visa program. Illegal immigrant workers are just taking the worst positions and are exploited under the table. This isn’t the case with the work visa program where 70% of visas are going to someone who is Indian or Chinese, incredibly disproportionate representation of those applying for visas.

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Anonymous #14 7w

I agree that crime is still an issue in America without illegal immigration, but this doesn’t mean we should suddenly lower our guard when bad actors enter illegally. We should be able to notice that both are a threat to national safety and work to prevent both, not discredit one or the other.

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Anonymous #18 7w

Criminal elite should absolutely be arrested, but let’s be honest, they’ll find a way to pay for a “get out of jail free card” Seldom do the government and societal elite get treated the same way as the rest of us in the legal system.

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