Anonymous #3 14w

It’s true, while it isn’t their goal, that’s exactly what they did

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Anonymous #2 14w

Just say you’re racist and continue

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Anonymous #7 14w

MAGAt infested brain rot, -2/10 troll bait

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Anonymous #9 14w

How about making a cogent argument instead of saying MAGA brain rot (i didnt even vote for trump) You guys just spam ad hominem and refuse to use logic and make an intelligent rebuttal.

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Anonymous #7 14w

I mean you’re the one that started with insults 🤣 don’t get mad when I stoop to your own level at least. And you don’t have to vote for him to support him and his policies, just like you’ve clarified as an example yourself…

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What’s the categorical fact

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Anonymous #6 14w

You’re racist

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Anonymous #7 14w

And I’d make a coherent argument but genocide supporters will always throw logic out the window for Islamophobia and victim blaming

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Anonymous #2 14w

lol couldn’t even do THAT right 🤡

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Anonymous #9 14w

Only after making an actual argument did i call him what he is, a shmuck. Defending Israel’s right to defend itself isn’t “maga brain rot.” I may not support trump but yes i do support his decision to aid Israel. He may make questionable decisions, but his Israel policies are nothing short of noble.

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Anonymous #9 14w

Don’t generalize. Im always up for logical and fair discourse. Calling out certain Arabs for their iniquities isn’t Islamophobia it’s simply stating facts

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Anonymous #7 14w

I mean why bother arguing with these people, any person with half a brain cell can see that Irans official policy is wiping Israel off the face of the earth. But if you say that you’re an Islamophobic. Like… no there are plenty of Muslim majority countries who aren’t completely insane. Saudia Arabia for example, except that one time they killed that journalist

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Anonymous #7 14w

Ya sure, if you think Islamophobia and letting a genocide occur is noble and divine, but then again why am I surprised? And nawww you just started the comment with “brainwashed idiot” not an argument… not to argue semantics ofc

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Anonymous #10 14w

Round of applause for you. These people have such debilitating cognitive biases they make 2+2=5.

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Anonymous #9 14w

How’s it a genocide please tell me

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Anonymous #7 14w

Who’s the administration that’s promoting widely known fake science again?

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Anonymous #7 14w

Systematic murder of an ethnic or cultural group by consolidating their population and then culling them indiscriminately of age sex or profession. If you need me to explain this to you then you’re a lost cause 😔

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Anonymous #9 14w

Palestine has been heavily oppressed by Israel, when tensions rose Israel chose to bomb schools and hospitals with no confirmed military targets inside. Verifiable and completely recorded by the history books and there’s no wriggling out of it. They’ve been murdering children to remove potential future insurrectionists and Palestinians, itself constituting a genocide

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Anonymous #9 14w

Collateral damage does not equal indiscriminate killing. In the pursuit of killing terrorists there are civilian deaths. That’s the truth of every single war. As a matter of fact, if you look at the statistics, Israel’s civilian to combatant death ratio is the best in all history of urban warfare. I undoubtedly agree with you that deaths of civilians is terrible and regretful, but our point of disagreement is who’s at fault: Hamas

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Anonymous #7 14w

So you’re overlooking the part where I outlined that there’s verifiable proof of Israel bombing schools houses and hospitals for civilian casualties, and what’s I say first thing oh ya, you people always resort to either Islamophobia or victim claiming, and you’ve proven my point quite well thank you

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Anonymous #9 14w

If the representatives of Palestine truly wanted a better future for its people, it wouldn’t spend aid money on bombs, but rather on food and infrastructure. Hamas repurposing its water pipes into rockets really speaks for itself

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Anonymous #7 14w

And while hamas has used human shields in the past and in the current conflict limitedly it’s been proven Israel has been using them too, even outright murdering surrender civilians for no reason other than suspect. Israel is no better than Hamas in human shields at this point so your victim blaming is mute

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Anonymous #7 14w

You tend to spend money on weapons to defend yourself when a bigger richer enemy is constantly bullying you…

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Anonymous #9 14w

Idk where the accusation of islamaphobia came from because i never said anything against Muslims in general but okay I’ll just ignore that. The only reason hospitals or schools have been blown up is because these disgusting terrorists hide behind these institutions. The compassion Hamas has for its people really shines when they build tunnels and store weapons in hospitals. Tell me this, what would you rather have israel do.

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Anonymous #9 14w

If Hamas hides behind a school, don’t cry when it gets blown up. What do you expect Israel to do, allow Hamas to attack it and then hide being a hospital to grant themselves immunity? If that were so, Hamas would have found the ultimate cheat code: attack Israel and then hide for cover behind an invulnerable civilian institution.

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Anonymous #7 14w

I said either Islamophobia or victim blaming, I’ll be genuine I didn’t intend to claim you were being islamophobic because i don’t think you were. And if they’re hiding in the hospitals, does that give the IDF the excuse to bomb those hospitals even though there are innocent civilians being treated inside as well? It isn’t like Palestine has military hospitals either, so in the case of a conflict they HAVE to be treated inside a civilian one

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Anonymous #9 14w

Quite literally yes. Civilian infrastructure being used for military purposes loses its protection under international law, and an adversary is only responsible to ensure the civilian insult is proportional with the strategic advantage gained by the strike.

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Anonymous #7 14w

So you’re perfectly fine with Israel bombing children hiding in a school because a thug was hiding behind it too? That’s exactly what’s been happening, a terrorist (because not all Palestinian militants are terrorists plenty of morals and character) will fuck shit ik and Israel will say screw it whags 30 more dead kids anyways they’re gonna grow up to hate us anyways

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Anonymous #9 14w

First of all Israel offers medical assistance to injured Palestinians. Second of all I have a question for you, does Hamas HAVE to hide in hospitals and schools

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Anonymous #2 14w

So they’re terrorists and insurrectionists when it pleases you and militants and formal when that fits the narrative better?

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Anonymous #7 14w

In order to get medical attention beyond field work ya…? And they’re terrorists what do you expect them to do, that doesn’t give you an excuse to murder children because it’s easier

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Anonymous #9 14w

Im not perfectly fine with it. Im actually pissed the fuck off at Hamas that it’s happening because it’s their fault. Israel has to do what it has to do to eliminate these terrorist pigs, and if they decide to put their civilians in the crossfire, that’s their issue.

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Anonymous #2 14w

Aww wowwy he’s like in the third grade! That checks out

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Anonymous #9 14w

I’m not sure what gave you that idea. I think Israel should treat its adversaries as a uniformed military, despite their refusal to wear uniforms or identify themselves. Whether they wear uniforms is kind of an academic question, though, when they build command centers and weapons depots in schools, hospitals, churches, and mosques.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Dude Israel doesn’t have to do shit, let alone go in the offensive and bomb children

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Anonymous #9 14w

It’s not murder of children, it’s collateral damage that results from Hamas putting their people in danger.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Collateral damage is subjective to the mission, if you think a genocide is valid collateral damage then you’re brain damaged

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Anonymous #9 14w

Israel doesn’t have to do shit????? They get invaded by terrorists, have 1,200 of their people killed, hundreds of others held hostage, but they “dont have to do shit.” Let the hostages die in Gaza. Okay got it.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Oh and like Palestine hasn’t had its fair share of tragedy at the hand of Israel? This guess been going for thousands of years, there’s no pointing fingers and saying “they started it”, victim blaming again ffs

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Anonymous #9 14w

You don’t know what genocide is. Civilians dying ( in comparison to militants dying at a rate substantially lower than in all history of urban warfare) due to collateral damage does not mean there is a system in place to exterminate Palestinians. If they wanted to exterminate them (which they wouldn’t because Israel is a morally driven nation unlike other Arab nations) it would have been done already.

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Anonymous #9 14w

The only hardship Palestine has endured at the hands of Israel is hardship as a consequence of just retaliation. If you want to rewind the clock go look into the massacre of Hebron, Jaffa etc.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Bruh you OBVIOUSLY don’t know your history if you think this is a one sided thing…

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Anonymous #7 14w

Yeah that’s wildly ignorant tbh, both sides have done quite a bit to justify the other side hating them. The best path forward is for Israelis to recognize they won’t have peace while Palestinians can’t self determine, and for Palestinians to realize they won’t have peace while Israelis don’t have security, and proceed in negotiations that give both sides what they need, whatever form that takes.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I don’t deny that Israel may have acted questionably at some point, but these aberrations are far too infrequent to be considered trends or representative of Israel’s essence or ideals. Also, when their shortcomings are weighed against irans or palestines, it’s unequivocal that there is no moral equivalency between the two.

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Anonymous #2 14w

I think that’s a fair assessment. I’d like to add as well that as soon as Hamas stops shooting, the war ends. That’s a guarantee

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Anonymous #7 14w

And if I’m not wrong isn’t Zionism all about ending Palestine and taking their land for Israel…?

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Anonymous #9 14w

That, combined with the fact that they’re murdering children’s and flattening the land to the point it’s inhospitable… you’re arguing yo a steep slope

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Anonymous #2 14w

Exactly this, they both need to stop so civilians can be saved (if Israel stops after Hamas does which is not guarantee at this point) both will have to mold concessions for each other in order to start trusting each other

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Anonymous #9 14w

Look at my last comment

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Anonymous #7 14w

This isn’t large scale war, it’s a developed military against terrorists and the casualties should be no where near the leveled they’re at and that’s coming from someone critical of casualties made by Americans in the Middle East too. And idk what you mean by minimizing civilian casualties where have you seen signs of that besides scaling back the war effort in general? And they’re preventing births by murdering children, ya it isn’t word for word but they go hand in hand

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Anonymous #9 14w

The casualties shouldn’t be this high you’re right. But I’ll make two points here: the ratio of combatant to civilian deaths is more important to judge Israel’s actions than the mere number. Half a million German civilians died in ww2 but I don’t think it’d be accurate to call the British the bad guys in causing that would it? My second point is that the casualties being so high is Hamas’s fault. Also, Children dying (not by murder per the definition of murder) does NOT equal preventing births.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I can tell you care for the goodwill of people everywhere, and that’s very respectable of you. But I am afraid you have your facts and logic mixed up. Please don’t look at TikTok for your world information.

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Anonymous #9 14w

I know that the cool thing now a days is to hop on the Israel hate train, but you have to realize that for us Jews, the existence of Israel is paramount. For thousands of years we’ve been persecuted by countries we trusted until suddenly they turned their backs on us. The importance of the modern state of Israel lies in its protection and guarantee that it won’t ever persecute its Jews. That’s what Zionism is about, not colonialism, not genocide, not anything of the sort.

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Anonymous #7 14w

But Isreal has made Zionism intrinsically linked to genocide, violence, etc. They have built the idea that Israel can only exist as a with no state where Palestinians do not exist.

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Anonymous #1 14w

If that were the case then why has Israel offered a 2 state solution 5 times, each of which has been declined by the Palestinians

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Anonymous #7 14w

They were not going to end the settlements

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Anonymous #7 14w

And again that doesn’t detract from the fact of what I said. Israel has tied the idea of Zionism to genocide with the mass slaughter of people and the destruction of culture.

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Anonymous #1 14w

If 2 million Arabs can live in Israel’s territory, I reckon that some Jews have live in Judaea and Samaria, a land that is of high religious importance to them

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Anonymous #1 14w

Mass slaughter is a nasty relabeling of casualties of war. If that’s what you want to call deaths from war then I guess America killing nazis in the 1940s was also a mass slaughter. Zionism didn’t originate with the intention of killing people. The only thing Jews wanted after the holocaust was peace. The Arabs are at fault for the subsequent bloodshed

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Anonymous #7 14w

You’re comparing the starvation and massacring of children the same as killing Nazi enemy combatants? You believe a toddler is an enemy combatant? Are you serious?

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Anonymous #7 14w

The discrimination is against Palestinians. They are murdering Jewish, Muslim, and Christian Palestinians and destroying their culture.

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Anonymous #1 14w

The analogy is that in killing terrorists civilians die, in the same way that in ww2 while killing nazis, some civilians were killed too (bombings of Dresden)

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Anonymous #1 14w

Half a million German civilians were killed by England and America during ww2 but I think it’s safe to say they weren’t terrorists. Am I wrong?

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Anonymous #7 14w

And I condem the bombing of Dresden too, but Israel has the capacity to surgically eliminate terrorist suspects, but they also have the moral and legal obligation to minimize casualties which they are not. They are bombing shelters, and camps, hospitals, and schools, they claim they are Hamas sites- then infiltrate. They do not. They bomb. They starve children. They let newborns die in incubators. This is a genocide. This is a war crime. This is a crime against humanity. This is sin.

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Anonymous #1 14w

First of all there’s no Jews in Gaza. Also, murder is a strong word that is not characteristic of Israel’s actions. Civilians dying by collateral doesn’t equate to murder

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Anonymous #7 14w

When soldiers shoot grandmothers walking down the street it is murder. When they beat a man to death that is murder. When they run over an American in Gaza with a bulldozer that is murder. When you disregard the lives of innocent civilians “collateral damage” becomes murder. How can you defend the targeted killings of children and grandmothers.

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Anonymous #1 14w

You’re overestimating Israel’s military ability. They minimize casualties as much as they can, but there’s not much to be done when terrorists are deliberately hiding behind civilians. Also, there is an abundance of evidence showing that Hamas hides in its tunnels under schools, as well as hides weapons in hospitals

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Anonymous #7 14w

There is no justification for this. If America did it I would condemn it just as much. If any nation did it I would condemn it. How can you rationalize, minimize, and justify the deaths of thousands upon thousands of people? How can you justify the weaponized starvation of children?

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Anonymous #7 14w

Do you have no shame?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Soldiers shooting grandmothers is condemnable and saddening. But these soldiers are unrepresentative of Israel’s mission and objectives. One soldier acting nefariously doesn’t represent Israel nor the idf. This contrasts with Hamas mission, which is to kill every Jew from the river to sea, per their charter.

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Anonymous #1 14w

Do you have no shame for defending terrorists and ignoring the 1,200 people killed in the terrorist attack on October 7

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Anonymous #1 14w

There’s no weaponized starvation stop using buzz words. Also yes there is a justification. The death of civilians is disgusting and terrible, but it is not done deliberately by the idf, it is a consequence of every war. Do you condemn Americas involvement in the battle of bulge in ww2 against Germany where 5000 German civilians died. Do you think it would have been better to avoid the battle altogether and compromise Americas victory in ww2 to avoid these deaths?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Face it, civilians die in every long term war, and if you look at the numbers, the combatant to civilian death ratio for Israel is much more matched than in all history of urban warfare

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Anonymous #7 14w

There have been multiple reports that this is common sentiment, there have been multiple accounts of rapes, torture, and coverups done by Israeli soldiers, there was a right to rape protest. The Israeli government has used language mimicking that of other leaders who have committed genocide. They have called Palestinians less than human and beasts, they have said they want to kill them all. This is genocide.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Where did I say I defended the attack? Please show me I’ll wait.

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Anonymous #7 14w

he literally called the bombing of civilian areas “excellent”

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Anonymous #1 14w

Show me sources for all this. While you do that I’d like to state the irony, as rape torture and everything of the like was done by Hamas on October 7. Search up photographs of the victims’ homes on October 7. You’ll see dead children lying next to their mother covered in blood.

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Anonymous #7 14w

You are delusional and are going to hell. You justify the deaths of children. There is no justification for the death of children. There is no justification for the weaponized starvation- which despite your opinion, is indeed happening according to multiple sources and experts. Israel is committing genocide & you are defending it. Congratulations. 🎊

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Anonymous #1 14w

Do you condemn the attack

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Anonymous #7 14w

I condemn the deaths of innocents

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Anonymous #7 14w

Do you condemn the attacks on Palestine?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Call it justification or whatever you’d like. Bottom line is, it is upsetting that children on both sides are dying due to this conflict, but gazan children are being killed unintentionally, while Israeli children are killed deliberately. Sure, a child’s death may never be justified, but it surely is worse if they die from a bomb that was directed at terrorists, than if they die by the rifle of a Hamas terrorist deliberately killing them.

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Anonymous #1 14w

Do I condemn the attacks that Israeli did in retaliation for October 7 no. Now your turn, do you condemn October 7 attacks. Answer honestly it’s your opinion

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Anonymous #7 14w

I said I condemn the deaths of innocents

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Anonymous #1 14w

Ok me too, but do you condemn what Hamas did to Israelis on October 7. Please just answer the question yes or no

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Anonymous #7 14w

You refuse to acknowledge Israel is deliberately attacking civilians, weaponizing starvation, targeting protected populations including UN workers, aid workers, and the press; you refuse to acknowledge this is a genocide. You have no morals and no shame. The world is waking up and seeing this for what it is. A 75+ year long atrocity. There will be no moral or logical defense for the wholesale slaughter of children, on condemnation.

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Anonymous #1 14w

That non-answer sure says a lot about your morals and shame.

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Anonymous #1 14w

I refuse to acknowledge that Israel is deliberately attacking civilians because it isn’t. People dying because of a bomb intended to kill terrorists isn’t a deliberate killing of them nor a murder. It’s a tragedy of war

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Anonymous #1 14w

If you condemn the killing of innocents then surely you support the Israel’s retaliation for their innocents being killed right?

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Anonymous #7 14w

I said I condemn the death of innocents on Oct 7, what about that is shameful.

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Anonymous #7 14w

No i do not bc Israel is targeting civilians

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Anonymous #7 14w

So you just don’t do research d so few you talk.

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Anonymous #1 14w

If you condemn the death of innocents on October 7 then it follows that you support the payback for these innocents being killed right

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Anonymous #1 14w

Youre dodging my response with an unintelligible reply

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Anonymous #7 14w

That’s not how empathy works. If you kill my child that means I get to kill yours? What type of thought process?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Which innocents died on October 7th whose deaths you condemn? Could you specify?

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Anonymous #1 14w

If you kill my child I get to kill you. Not your children. That’s why when Israeli retaliated it directed its efforts against Hamas militants and not children. Children did die yes, but that was not Israel’s intention

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Anonymous #7 14w

What about saying “I condemn the deaths of innocents” doesn’t make sense? Please enlighten me. I do not mourn for anyone who was a monster that was killed in war, I mourn for the loss of innocents, of the thousands of children starving and living in fear because the leaders wish to destroy the world to rebuild it in their image. I condemn the atrocities done by Hamas and I condemn the atrocities done by Israel. You refuse to acknowledge the atrocities done by the Zionist state. That is barbaric.

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Anonymous #7 14w

If it is not Israel’s intention then why are they preventing food and medicine from arriving in Gaza? Why did the bomb a refugee camp and a historial despite being told they could not fully evacuate? Please explain.

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Anonymous #12 14w

7 is a unrepentant Zionist justifying the murder of children. They are the definition of evil.

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Anonymous #1 14w

I understand that you condemn the deaths of innocent Israelis on October 7. Therefore, you must support Israel retaliating against those who killed its innocents deliberately. Israel did not commit atrocities. It is an atrocity if civilians are intentionally killed, something Israel does not do.

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Anonymous #7 14w

No i do not support retaliation. Especially when it results in the mass casualties of innocents.

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Anonymous #7 14w

Go ahead explain

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Anonymous #7 14w

“you condemn senseless violence against innocent people, therefore you must support more violence against innocent people” what kind of mental gymnastics

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Anonymous #1 14w

Because Hamas terrorists were in the refugee camp. They stopped food to pressure Hamas into surrendering. Anyways, it’s not like Hamas cares too much about its peoples nutrition because it uses aid money for missiles

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Anonymous #12 14w

Correction: therefore you must support more violence against the perpetrators

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Anonymous #1 14w

So Israel should have just taken the October 7 attacks and do nothing in response? Just take it and move on like it never happened? How can a country survive that way?

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Anonymous #12 14w

I called Hamas terrorists evil, not Arabs in general. Stupid strawman

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Anonymous #1 14w

All im saying is that the death of children is unfortunate but it was collateral damage. Civilian deaths occur invariably in wars, and as a matter of fact, Israel’s ratio of combatant to civilian casualties is unprecedentedand remarkable. There is no discussing withyou. I think it’s clear you don’t the IQ to apply logic and make a counter argument without using a strawman and appealing to emotion. You misinterpret everything I say and just leave an emotionally charged and unproductive response

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Anonymous #7 14w

you’re acting like october 7 was when the war started

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Anonymous #1 14w

Stay out of politics if you can’t think critically and only in terms of “noooo Israel bad guy they do a genocide 😡” to Every argument Ive advanced youve given me an evasive response. If you can’t understand the simple premise that Israel needed to retaliate in response to the terrorist attack that left over a thousand Israelis dead, you clearly have a room temperature iq and im not inclined to keep this up.

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Anonymous #12 14w

When’d it start then

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Anonymous #7 14w

you quite literally did

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Anonymous #7 14w

literally decades ago

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Anonymous #7 14w

literally the first result on google

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Anonymous #12 14w

my bad you didn’t say they were evil you said they were immoral, those are definitely totally different things -___-

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Anonymous #12 14w

So to you: some Arab nations aren’t morally driven equals Arabs are evil?

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Anonymous #12 14w

I saw this after my reply. Thank you for acknowledging that

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Anonymous #7 14w

immortal and evil are effectively the same thing. my point still stands

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Anonymous #7 14w

i was being sarcastic in my comment with the “-___-“

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Anonymous #12 14w

*immoral

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Anonymous #12 14w

Saying a country isn’t driven by morals and calling it evil are two very different things

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Anonymous #7 14w

explain how because what the fuck

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