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 I like Taiwan, but they are not our responsibility. We are not the global police and all present Taiwan hawkishness is just repackaged Domino Theory.
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Anonymous 4w

Conversely, Taiwan is an important manufacturing hub for semiconductor products and should it fall to China we could potentially lose access to the literal one place on earth with the expertise and equipment to make all of our most important infrastructure work

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Anonymous 4w

Getting involved in the reheated Chinese civil war could only end in large-scale disaster

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Anonymous 4w

I think we should defend Taiwan. It allows us to further isolate China militarily from the pacific. The chain of Japan, Okinawa, Taiwan and the Philippines helps prevent the Chinese navy from pushing influence further out

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Anonymous 4w

By Taiwan hawkishness do you mean like, saying we should defend them if China invades in the future? Or did something, like, happen in Taiwan that I’m not aware of recently? I know I’m sort of framing this in a way that could be interpreted as snide, but I’m genuinely asking.

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Anonymous 4w

Wait whats domino theory

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Anonymous replying to -> mushy.the.mushroom 4w

Yes, the Taiwan hawks in the political establishment

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

At the current moment the US is completely incapable of manufacturing semiconductors on the same scale as Taiwan

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Well we ought to allocate resources or find new partners.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

We have had many years to prepare and at this rate will have many more

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

You know what would be silly, fighting a war to protect these technologies that would be unnecessarily used up in a war

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

From Eisenhower

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Anonymous replying to -> evil_sheep 4w

I mean if your goal is temporary containment and imminent confrontation, sure.

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Anonymous replying to -> .gaia. 4w

I mean it’s worked for decades i don’t think it’s a temporary goal

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Anonymous replying to -> evil_sheep 4w

I’m not sure containment has really worked in the way you think it is. China simply isn’t interventionist or expansionist (for now) and the CCP platform states they essentially think economic ties are more effective long term than military aggression

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Anonymous replying to -> .gaia. 4w

So like, they haven’t even wanted to expand militarily, at least since Mao, beyond their front yard in the South China Sea, and ofc wanting Taiwan

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 4w

I just think it’s so unnecessary and against our interests. Like sure if the people of Taiwan want to be separate, go for it, but that’s not our fight

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Anonymous replying to -> .gaia. 4w

They have expanded their navy in recent years. Including aircraft carriers. Not to mention building of military bases in Africa This chain also helps prevent illegal fishing excursions by Chinese fishermen which has caused tensions for many countries in the area.

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Anonymous replying to -> evil_sheep 4w

I really don’t think illegal fishing operations are a national security concern for us. That is their business not ours. And yeah, they are absolutely growing naval and nuclear capabilities. They want to defend themselves and get Taiwan.

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Anonymous replying to -> evil_sheep 4w

Everything China does is tit for tat with us and vice versa. The point is that one of us has to end things or they will continue to escalate, and in that respect we must either continue “strategic ambiguity” or refuse to defend it.

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Anonymous replying to -> .gaia. 4w

The issue is that the two nations just don’t get along whatsoever. Trust me I’m no “let’s go to war to defend our economic interests” type of person, I just don’t realistically see a near future where everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya and the US and China actually like each other

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

That doesn’t mean we should actively try to feed into conflict.

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Anonymous replying to -> .gaia. 4w

But if we defend Taiwan what do they escalate the current situation has them contained militarily and an economic ally in the region. It’s like giving Russia Crimea it didn’t stop escalation

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