Anonymous #2 1w

its not banned it was a legal gun

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Anonymous #3 1w

yes, and a photo of the guy who did it

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Anonymous OP 1w

What was the firearm used?

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Anonymous #3 1w

bolt action rifle

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Anonymous #4 1w

high powered bolt-action rifle

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Anonymous #4 1w

likely with FMJ ammo

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Anonymous OP 1w

This literally just means target ammo

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Anonymous #5 1w

and what about it

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Anonymous #5 1w

yet it still killed someone who took every precaution to prevent it. the point is we shouldnt live in a society where we’re just hoping noone wants to kill us

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Anonymous OP 1w

Exactly. We should be able to speak freely without that fear. The agenda to label every person that disagrees with us as fascists, nazis, and racists need to end

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Anonymous #5 1w

so words are dangerous enough to insight violence?

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Anonymous #5 1w

The word Nazi has been so overused. They take the substance away from the horrors that party was responsible for. Parents just need to raise their kids again.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Apparently, they are to certain people, who disagreed with Charlie Kirk.

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Anonymous #1 1w

i hear you, but you didn’t answer my question

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yes, you just saw it happen to Kirk.

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Anonymous OP 1w

What question?

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Anonymous #5 1w

what makes the words dangerous. is it only the word “nazi” that’s a problem?

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Yes 👍🏻

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Anonymous #5 1w

can word’s reasonably insight violence

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Anonymous #1 1w

okay, so should they be limited in some way

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Anonymous OP 1w

Nope.

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Anonymous #1 1w

but you just said you wanted people to stop calling other people nazis

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Anonymous OP 1w

I want them to, but I can’t stop them. It’s a dangerous word to use BUT it’s their right to use it. It’s a moral problem that left leaning media, and maybe some right has used to degrade opponents.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I want people to have an opinion. I don’t have to agree with it and I damn sure won’t kill them for it. The same way that somebody else should want me to have an opinion, but not want me dead for it.

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Anonymous #1 1w

you understand that it was one guy who killed charlie kirk right. and there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who hate him, thousands who have probably joked/said they want to kill him, yet noone did until now. and the guy that did it doesnt belong to any of the groups charlie likes to “attack” in debates. so im confused how you think this is an attack on differing opinions?

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Anonymous OP 1w

The word Nazi is just an attempt to devalue the life of the person you disagree with.

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Anonymous #5 1w

i think it’s a little ironic to talk about dehumanization being wrong, as a right wing apologist no? not to group you in with the most extreme of your party, but cmon its a little ironic

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Anonymous OP 1w

Who from the right wing has slaughtered a free speech political activist recently. Which party constantly seeks platforms for civil debate, only to be called fascists Nazis or racist?

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Anonymous #5 1w

the charleston church shooting, aurora theater shooting, oklahoma city bombing, el paso walmart shooting, pittsburgh synagogue shooting, overland park jewish community shooting, sikh temple shooting, christchurch mosque shooting, las vegas shooting, pulse night club shooting, nashville christmas bombing, poway synagouge shooting, madison courthouse shooting, colorado springs planned parenthood shooting, tennessee church shooting, kansas jewish community center shooting, must i continue?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Again, are these random acts of mental illness and murder, or political assassinations?

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Anonymous #5 1w

all mass shootings done by extreme right individuals who sited their political opinions as their reasoning. if we’re going to let some extreme individuals represent the entire group, i fear you lose that one. respectfully

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Anonymous OP 1w

Again, you’re talking about mentally ill people committing mass murder, not executing someone who is actively pursuing free speech and then unionization of differing opinions. Also, I don’t see anyone making fun of school shooting victims, but I do see a lot of people making fun of Charlie Kirk.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yah the left kinda did just go back to back with assassination attempts. With 1 being successful…

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Anonymous #5 1w

you’re coping and you know it. you know exactly what im saying

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Anonymous #1 1w

Exactly. Both times where people they disagree about talking about politics. It seems that it is becoming increasingly unsafe to exercise the freedom of speech.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Coping how? The dude was literally murdered while actively seeking civil discourse, which is admirable and aligns with the constitution no matter what your political views are.

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Anonymous #5 1w

and every mass shooting instance i just named happened because someone disagreed with another person’s religion, political opinion or ultimately their personal identity. they are the same thing

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Anonymous OP 1w

Or because the person was literally insane? So you’re saying all these mass shootings and or murderers are the same as MLK being assassinated?

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Anonymous #5 1w

okay so can i say the same thing about the trump and charlie kirk shooters

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yeah definitely crazy right? But obviously also politically motivated. The timing, setting, the specific target. All point to it being a politically motivated assassination, not just an insanity fueled mass murder.

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Anonymous OP 1w

To be fair we have no clue what group the shooter belongs to right now.

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Anonymous #5 1w

it is also politically motivated to kill someone over their freedom of religion, over abortion, or over their sexuality

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Anonymous OP 1w

Also, where he was shot on the body, his throat, is important. That specific shot is called the “shut tf up shot.” it is often used against political opponents or high ranking officials and opposing militaries, things like that to lower morale and silence whatever message the target is representing.

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Anonymous #5 1w

I hunt with a 30-06 Mauser; which is the gun that was recovered. They drop very bad. Especially with 150-175 grain rounds. You also need to account for the fact the shooter could have been untrained in bullet drop and simply aimed for the head and hit low.

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Anonymous #1 1w

what did the ammo say?

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Anonymous #1 1w

And tore through his internal jugular and carotid artery? Very low chance

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Anonymous #5 1w

Definitely a possibility. If I knew the wind direction I could also tie in the fact it could have drifted the bullet right.

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Anonymous OP 1w

No clue. I’m assuming he used steel core rounds, which is what most hunting vendors would recommend to someone. They come in 125 all the way up to 200 grain that I’ve seen.

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Anonymous #1 1w

So he did hit him on the neck on purpose or? Either way if you’re talking about accounting for wind, and all those other factors, we’re talking about a skilled shooter here. Obviously planned out.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I’m sure there are people looking into ballistics that will release some data soon

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Anonymous #5 1w

I’m saying he definitely was not aiming for the neck and the shot drifted low and right. Which so happened to be a very very fatal placement

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Anonymous #1 1w

Either way, that’s over 300 yards. I feel like it takes a pretty confident shooter to even wanna make that shot.

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Anonymous #5 1w

this is roughly what the shooter saw, but also imagine how much smaller a human head and neck is than this large practice target, and also he had the leafy top of a tree obstructing his view as well.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Ohhh i misread that. This IS what New York post posted, just re sent trough another account. I confirmed

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Anonymous OP 1w

Exactly my point. Somewhat skilled shooter, plan attack, definitely politically motivated.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’d say that’s about a 5x-10x magnification. We don’t know the capabilities of the sight yet so that’s hard to use as evidence of a professional shooter.

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Anonymous #1 1w

the only sources that reported this “pro trans messaging” are the telegraph, the independent, and new york post. very untrustworthy sites among those, only one of them included what they believed was written on there and the phrase is “you cant take us all out” a common anti fascist phrase. please dont spread misinformation broseph i hate having to give the new york post my clicks

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Anonymous #5 1w

I dunno, I’ll consider myself skilled as I’m a life long hunter. I will consider that an easy shot given a 10 times scope, a prone position with a stable gun rest. And a stable target.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Think about the escape tho. There was even a false suspect at the scene that was arrested to give the shooter time to get out of the area. Very suspicious.

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Anonymous OP 1w

CBS also confirmed if that means anything.

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Anonymous #5 1w

the guy was like 21 tho, how much training can one really get at that age, cause its not just abt aim, this required impeccable breath and trigger control as well

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m 20 and I definitely could make this shot. The only thing id really account for is the pressure of the shot.

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Anonymous #5 1w

the shooter didnt need time to flee the area, he was very far away and they actually JUST released footage as i typed this of him jumping off the roof to escape; noone was around

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Anonymous OP 1w

I just saw two pretty interesting things, one was a video of the shooter in a neighborhood limping, possibly from the roof jump, and two, a man claiming a steel plate ricocheted the bullet into his neck

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Anonymous #1 1w

i promise you with 100% certainty you could not make this shot with one bullet. my dad was in the fbi for 37 years and the first thing he said after it all came out was that this would be really insane if it was a civilian because the difficult trajectory, the distance, and the fact only one bullet was shot make this a one in a million type situation

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Anonymous #1 1w

Personally I don’t think a 30-06 round would ricochet at all. But we will see an autopsy soon

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’ll test it tmr but I’m sure I could. 140 yards was the linear distance from the building; I’ll give 150 to account for elevation change. My rifle stays sighted at 150 yards. Once again the only real factor leaning towards professional in my opinion is making the shot under pressure.

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Anonymous OP 1w

So it was a targeted attack?

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Anonymous #1 1w

“you cant take us all” isnt a trans thing its an anti fascist thing

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Anonymous #5 1w

my dad thinks it was russia or israel. but he’s a little too active on facebook and X

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Anonymous OP 1w

CBS also stated “pro trans” now what that means I don’t know but they did say it

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Anonymous #1 1w

because it has recently been used by the trans community among others who believe they are being fascistly oppressed (hence the use of the anti fascist slogan) but it is not tied to transness at all

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Anonymous #1 1w

these news places are clickbaiting cause the topic is popular

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Anonymous OP 1w

That’s a good point

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Anonymous OP 1w

Also a good point

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Anonymous OP 1w

I hope they catch the dude alive, I have a theory he’s seeing this manhunt and is just gonna end it before he gets caught. Like almost all shooters do

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Anonymous #1 1w

possibly, tho he couldve done it right away if he had rlly the guts to

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Anonymous OP 1w

Maybe he’s just seeing if he can get away with it first.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I hope they hang em high

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Anonymous #5 1w

Utah governed confirmed the max penalty, death, will be sought.

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Anonymous #1 1w

As it should

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Anonymous #1 1w

thats better than life in prison tbh. you get a much longer trial (so more time in jail vs prison) and your usually spend decades on death row and get your own cell. plus you get one last good meal in ur life

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Anonymous OP 1w

I see it that way too, they should rot in solitary confinement for however long it takes for him to go to hell.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I know the conversation is irrelevant now but made that shi first try on a 6 inch target at 200 yards

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Anonymous #1 1w

Word

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