
onigiri.
Can some gun nerd explain what I’m wrong about here? This guy deleted his post after refusing to respond. Is there a kind of “integral” internal suppression that cannot be removed, replaced, or redesigned out of a firearm without breaking it?There are systems where the suppressor is built into or around the barrel, but they’re so far from the norm it’s not even worth mentioning. Again, this is the midwit who just likes flexing his hobby on non-gun owners. They’re just an absolutist. Most suppressors are threaded attachments.
I have no idea what the original context was but there are only a few extremely specialized firearms in existence that have integrated suppressors that cannot be removed without requiring extreme modification to the gun. However, to your point, I don’t think suppressors should be banned. They don’t really provide that much of a stealth benefit. Suppressed gunshots are still well over 100dB, they mainly help to prevent hearing damage.
That’s what he was referring to. And I’m aware of those but even if the swap is hard, you *can* in every single case I know of swap the barrel to remove the suppression. I’m not a gun nerd so I just assumed where was some kind of suppression built into some specific gun that without it would prevent the gun from firing. But it appears no such weapon exists lmao.
Sometimes. Most of the time, you can’t swap out those kinds of barrels as they behave more like a fixed unit than a modular one. Even if you’re “wrong”, it’s not a wrong that is even remotely talking about. It’s a niche weapon system. Typically, most gun owners like modularity.
I don’t necessarily care if they’re banned or not and I haven’t been convinced either way. I just don’t really see the harm in them being banned. Like, Ik they don’t magically make a gun silent or even close, but the sound of a firearm is a universal warning. To me, it’s like trying to turn down the volume in a fire alarm.
But I also don’t think the function well enough to meaningfully remove the warning from the equation, if your far away enough not to hear it odds are you’re gonna be okay. So i dont necessarily think they *should* be banned either. I just think that in a strictly mathematical sense, their restriction technically reduces harm. But in practice not really.
I actually agree with your points here. I think that my personal philosophy is that preventing hearing damage, especially in indoor ranges, will provide more of an overall benefit than the harm that the potential for a reduced gunshot cause could cause. But that’s my opinion, and I see why people would think the opposite. I’m also definitely biased because owning suppressors directly benefits me (I get to keep my hearing).
Integral systems are typically quieter than threaded attachments. One of the biggest pros to them is that there is essentially zero shifting when using them where with a detachable can, you will have shift because it’s not one cohesive unit. Less gas blowback with them as well. Again though, that dude is like the worst kind of enthusiast.