Anonymous #2 13w

Right now, I feel as though there is not much to be patriotic about

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Anonymous #3 13w

Being patriotic does not mean being a trump supporter

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Anonymous #2 13w

I never said it does???

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Anonymous #3 13w

What is there not to be patriotic about

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Anonymous #2 13w

Poor people dying on the streets. Vets killing themselves. Innocent people being deported.

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Anonymous #4 13w

These are all things that occur worldwide, it’s a cruel world.

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Anonymous #2 13w

Not worldwide if these people are supported by welfare in any other developed country.

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Anonymous #2 13w

The economy, the sitting president, politicians, treatment of lower class, suicide rates, mental and physical health rates, the state of the environment, the treatment of POC, immigrant abuse, maltreatment of LGBTQ, abortion eights, womens rights, etc.

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Anonymous #2 13w

So what is there to be patriotic about if this is the state of America?

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Anonymous #4 13w

There are people in developed countries that are dying on the streets and they have much better social programs (we should have better social programs), the cruel world will always be cruel

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Anonymous #3 13w

women’s rights is crazy. i’m a women. what’s something i can’t do in america that a man can do ????

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Anonymous #3 13w

And through all that we can create change because we are a democratic nation!

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Anonymous #3 13w

same thing this poc and lgbtq what can’t they do in america? if anything since this country is so diverse, and every place you go, grocery store, school, work it’s more likely they’re get hired over a white man/ women for more “diversity and inclusion”

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Anonymous OP 13w

The threat of abortion rights…a rise is conservatism and “slut shaming” are just 2 examples of prominent issues

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Anonymous OP 13w

POC include hispanic individuals who are being targeted by ICE and racially profiled…

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Anonymous #3 13w

& job applications. you have to put your race, background, how you identify, gender etc. if anything we’ve become more inclusive to all over the past few years so i’m just confused why anyone would think they’re not treated right in america

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Anonymous OP 13w

LGBTQ rights ARE CONSTANTLY up for debate. Trans people are also CONSTANTLY losing rights

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Anonymous OP 13w

Don’t worry though! Trump got rid of DEI so…

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Anonymous #3 13w

yes targeted for being illegal… visa expired? illegal. hopped the border? illegal. if you’re here legally you’re good but there’s consequences for actions guys! this isn’t brand new information

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Anonymous #3 13w

this now means most qualified will get the job. not because of race gender or background. which it should always be most qualified gets the job… do you not agree with that?

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Anonymous #3 13w

this topic really interests me because id genuinely like to know more about trans people’s rights and what they can’t do in america that i can

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Anonymous OP 13w

Why is ICE questioning specifically hispanic individuals? Why are they unethically detaining individuals if they match a hispanic description? Why are Trumpies and Trump himself anti-due process rights? Why have there been several reports of Native Americans being detained?

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Anonymous OP 13w

Conceptually, no I do not disagree with that. However, the problem with “blind interviews and applications” is that in positions such as within therapy fields, POC are more likely to open up to a POC therapist who can relate to them. If white people are all considered to be “more qualified” how will the void be filled?

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Anonymous OP 13w

The banning of pride flags in several states, the issue of the bathroom and trans people, the attack on trans people in the military are just a few

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Anonymous #3 13w

to answer the first thing- ICE is detaining hispanic individuals more than anyone else because we do border mexico and a lot of the issue is people from mexico coming here illegally it’s not a “race” thing why it’s happening it’s honestly because you see all of them on the news coming here illegally and it’s easier than taking a flight in from another country

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Anonymous OP 13w

ICE is also questioning and selecting hispanic individuals to question about their immigration status without any evidence. Particularly, during ICE raids. The problem with this is that there is some massive stereotype that every Mexican is an illegal immigrant which we both know is not true. Their due process rights are also entirely ignored. Native Americans have been detained as well.

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Anonymous #3 13w

next the pride flag is only banned in utah which i don’t agree with because everyone should have the right to express themselves. the only issue i dont agree with is pushing your feelings on someone else. if you are biologically a man. there is no way you can EVER get pregnant have a period all of the above so being the cover of the tampon box is honestly just humiliating to biological females which is making women feel less. the products are feminine products for female reproduction. a bio male

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Anonymous OP 13w

will never have that. also with the bathrooms. there shouldn’t be a biological male in the female changing rooms and locker rooms. it’s happened a few times where men will pretend to be trans and watch females change. not saying they all do this. but the gender neutral bathroom or even creating trans bathrooms can help solve some of these issues

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Anonymous OP 13w

a big thing since i was a college athlete was not having bio men in women’s sports because they are scientifically built different and have more advantages to women. running against a biological man is not fair and again, hurting women’s rights to fair and equal in sports

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Anonymous OP 13w

You’re a woman not women. Learn that first. And then go do research if you’re capable.

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Anonymous OP 13w

If there are consequences for actions, why isn’t the current president in jail? He’s done illegal shit.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Idaho and Utah have both banned the Pride flag. Many other states are also working on a ban (including Florida and Texas). These states are also adding bible teachings into the education system, yet are violating first Amendment rights. It makes no sense. If pushing your feelings onto someone else is wrong why do I see so many religious people + MAGA people parading around their children while screaming hate?

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Anonymous OP 13w

I also don’t understand the reasoning behind having a trans influencer on a tampon box, but that’s honestly such a minimal issue when considering all of the other things occurring with trans peoples rights and womens rights

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Anonymous OP 13w

So your issue is not with trans women it’s with cis men…

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Anonymous OP 13w

You realize there are less than 10 trans women in sports right?

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Anonymous OP 13w

Creating trans bathrooms would just create more division. Also what about trans people in professional sports?

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Anonymous OP 13w

Isn’t sex just an arbitrary category? There are so many things that impact atheletic ability why target sex?

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Anonymous #3 13w

i grew up in a catholic school setting and you’d never see me pushing my opinion on another person. beliefs shouldn’t be pushed upon others i agree with that.

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Anonymous #3 13w

it goes both ways is a biological women was doing this too. not just a cis man. it was examples

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Anonymous OP 13w

I did as well. And this is why I have a hard time being patriotic. Why is this occurring the United States? We are seeing separation of church and state deteriorate right before our own eyes. The first amendment is being spit on.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Then it sounds like your problem isnt with the trans community its with the cis community

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Anonymous #3 13w

but a lot of the outrage started with the trans influencer on the tampon box. once people started putting them above real women, this whole situation started. you guys preach women’s rights but when bio women are targeted by society that includes a trans woman you have nothing to say or “it’s a minimal issue”

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Anonymous OP 13w

I’m a biological woman. It really does not feel like a significant issue. But if you do feel as though it is a women’s rights problem, then you see my point that women are being treated differently in America which is a major reason people feel anti-patriotic. On the other hand, not allowing a trans woman to be on a period product would be a violation of the first amendment which would also make me feel pretry un-patriotic

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Anonymous #3 13w

there’s a difference between reality and false reality. what do you have to say about those who now identify as “minor attracted” meaning they are attracted to minors that’s how they identify. so you can’t call them a p*do because it’s not inclusive and now a slur and you can’t tell them it’s wrong because it’s not inclusive what are you supposed to do? i’m genuinely curious because this has been a big debate on social media lately

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Anonymous OP 13w

Could you please be more specific about what you mean by realiry versus false reality?

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Anonymous #3 13w

thank you!! women are being treated differently because of how much we’re trying to be inclusive that we’re not taking into account real women and their feelings. i’m not saying i can’t do something as a man but im saying that real facts are being ignored over beliefs

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Anonymous OP 13w

Pedophilia is a crime and the result of what is likely severe mental illness and/or trauma. I absolutely disagree with that. However, an admitted pedophile is sitting in the presidents office which sickens me to my core and again, makes me feel un-patriotic

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Anonymous #3 13w

i think a really good explanation that i saw was nick cannon who is very left and candace owen’s who is very right. she posted a video on 6-9 titled the “the truth is not disrespectful” it’s on tiktok i really think you should watch it and let me know what you think. again its a conversation between both sides about this topic

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Anonymous #3 13w

i’m not a kiss ass to that man and i definitely don’t agree with everything he’s done but on the business side of things and helping america becoming a better america again, he had good policies. by putting americans first that’s why i chose him

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Anonymous OP 13w

He’s attracted to minors which is absolutely insane. Which I think we both agreed is a problem. Character is a major component of Presidency. I disagree that he’s helping America, particularly for all of the reasons I stated.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Much of what we have agreed on are in fact reasons to not feel patriotic which I think for many people are prominent factors as to why the American flag is being burnt

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Anonymous #3 13w

but my point is if someone is identifying as “minor attracted” how can we tell them they’re not included when we’re supposed to have free speech and an all inclusive country for people who want to believe in what they want?

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Anonymous #3 13w

to disrespect our former veterans and the ones who keep our country safe by burning the american flag is just completely insane

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Anonymous OP 13w

Free speech includes limitations particularly pertaining to actions. If you have intercourse with a minor you are violating the first amendment. I would be pro-American if the constitution was actually being followed.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Didn’t the Veterans fight for this country in order for people to be able to voice their frustrations through symbolic acts?

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Anonymous #3 13w

if you’re not pro american and you don’t like the constitution not being followed, in the nicest way possible do you think you’d be happier in another country?

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Anonymous #3 13w

yes and freedom of speech and the right to protest should never be taken away from us. but when disrespecting the flag and having out of control protestors where people are raiding and burning cities, that’s when law enforcement has to step in and put an end it it. it’s not taking away a protest. now there’s legal issues involved

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Anonymous OP 13w

It’s not that I’m not Pro-American it’s that I do not feel as though the foundational principles of America are being respected nor followed. Which makes me not patriotic. If the bs that is happening right now, that we both have recognized as an issue, was not occurring, then I would be patriotic

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Anonymous #3 13w

1.) Burning the flag does not put others in danger nor does it violate other components of Amendment 1 2.) Raiding, burning, and causing damages would fall under a violation of Amendment 1 However, infiltrating on protests in order to encourage an increase in crime which has been done by law enforcement would fall under violation of Amendment 1 on the side of the Law enforcement. For example, police blocked off an area to forbid protesters from leaving for curfew in order to make arrests, (ketti

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Anonymous #3 13w

“kettling” June 14th 2025 No Kings Protest

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Anonymous OP 13w

Again, people who are frustrated with unlawful tactics and disregard of an Amendment right on either side have the right to burn the flag. It is symbolic of Anerican frustration with disregard to our constitutional rights

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Anonymous #2 13w

This is so stupid, the country was built on protests Minorities have rights BUILT ON PROTEST. Burning the flag is a form of protest, freedom of speech. The end

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