Anonymous #1 11w

Personally, I don’t care if someone comes here illegally. The vast majority of immigrants are incredibly hard working and do some of the most back breaking labor. Trump has just done a lot of fear mongering surrounding immigrants that some people are gullible enough to fall for

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Anonymous #2 11w

A lot of them also pay taxes and obey the law. If they pay their dues and cause no problems like who gaf. We just wasting money to lose more money longterm and shortterm with each non troubling individual deported. Which they seem to have quick realized

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Anonymous OP 11w

My problem is when we have no idea who comes across our border. I completely agree that most are hard working and great people. The issue is the fact that there are also child/human traffickers and drug smugglers that take advantage of a weak border. The vast majority of the drugs like fentanyl that come into our country come from our southern border. I’m all for making it easier for immigrants to come over I think that’s an amazing thing but issue arise when we can’t know who is coming over.

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Anonymous #1 11w

So deal with those cases as you find them instead of blanket deportations he has already rescinded on…thanks for agreeing with our point one.

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Anonymous OP 10w

Yes let’s actively let children be trafficked into our country and let drugs which take countless lives into our country and then stop them once a child is being abused and when someone is dying on the floor from a fentanyl overdose.

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Anonymous OP 10w

Would you leave your door unlocked and advertise that you have a place for homeless people in need to stay? They need a safe place to stay and food in their belly. Don’t worry you can kick them out but only after they have pulled a knife on you, raped you, or drugged you (or all three).

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Anonymous #4 10w

tell that to the founding fathers (who were immigrants)

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Anonymous #5 10w

Um like 5 of them were immigrants out of like 100 ish

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Anonymous #4 10w

whose parents were likely immigrants. this country was built for immigrants, by immigrants, by stomping on the people who already did live here for countless generations

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Anonymous #5 10w

And again most of them were born here, so.. how about we all just stick to where we were born

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Anonymous #4 10w

people have a right to immigrate to wherever they please. besides, i highly doubt a woman born in say, iran, wants to stay where she was born

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Anonymous #1 10w

Apples to oranges. Good try though.

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Anonymous #1 10w

Like i hope you stretched good before you reached with that dogshit comparison.

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Anonymous #5 10w

Hmm but white people according to you should go back to Europe?

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Anonymous #1 10w

Drug trafficking: absolutely. Human trafficking? Hardly. It’s basically all labor trafficking but it’s happening TO the undocumented and not them doing it to us. How about we make the process to immigrate into the USA easier so they aren’t being taken advantage of and we can check their belongings more carefully to ensure no drugs are being trafficked through.

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Anonymous #1 10w

We create homeless shelters for people who need a safe place to stay but have no equivalent for immigrants that need a safe place to escape to until they care approved as citizens. I truly think most Mexican immigrants we receive in the usa should be classified as refugees and at least be granted temporary asylum until further background checks can be done.

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Anonymous #1 10w

If you want to ever mention human trafficking related to the usa, most of it is consumed by the usa more than other countries, like sex trafficking and products made with labor trafficking. And our rates of human trafficking within the usa has been increasing exponentially for the past few years in every state and we have horrible laws about it. Like genuinely people being trafficked can’t go to police bc they will get more jail time than their traffickers.

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Anonymous #1 10w

I honestly hate hate HATE it when people bring up human trafficking with immigration because the usa government is trafficking them WAY more than any kind of trafficking that might happen (which most of the “trafficking” undocumented immigrants is lying about their identity to get into the country or smuggling someone in, not labor or sex trafficking which are the only actual types of human trafficking)

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Anonymous #1 10w

Like trafficking doesn’t mean transporting or smuggling in this case, legally in the usa it means fraud, coercing, or in some way forcing someone into sexual acts or labor. Drug trafficking is saying the movement of, human trafficking does not require/mean any movement or transportation. But so many people say “human trafficking” when they mean smuggling.

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Anonymous mother_russia 10w

Sorry to interrupt your sperg out but the government removing someone isn’t trafficking, the cartel making people pay them to sneak them across the border is, or they force those women/children to commit sexual acts which account for all of the trafficking cases because that’s what trafficking is, you’re conflating it with fraud because that’s is a charge, no one is charged with being trafficked.

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Anonymous #4 10w

No im not talking about the government moving someone from one place to another, I’m talking about genuine labor trafficking. As I’ve specified many many times, human trafficking is not the movement of people, it’s the coercion and exploitation of people.

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Anonymous #4 10w

Paying someone to sneak you across a border is not human trafficking at all. Forced prostitution is absolutely sex trafficking but that is very very uncommon for undocumented immigrants to be sex trafficked by other undocumented immigrants as opposed to American citizens trafficking them, so don’t act like American citizens are at risk of these crimes when it’s the undocumented that are the ones suffering and being exploited.

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Anonymous #4 10w

And human trafficking is its own crime. You can be charged with sex trafficking or labor trafficking. There is a federal charge as well as individual state charges for human trafficking. Look up TVPA from 2000 which defines sex trafficking and forced labor as federal crimes.

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Anonymous #4 10w

The fact that you don’t even know the human trafficking is its own crime or what that actually is defined as is crazy. Like please at least know the basic information about things you want to argue about.

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Anonymous OP 10w

At least I’m not saying we should let people die of overdose and let children be trafficked before we do anything to stop it

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Anonymous mother_russia 10w

I can agree with a lot of what you said. That being said there is a proper way to seek asylum in our country there are still steps to take. People can come into the US first and then they have a year to fill out the proper form. I think this should be more easily known which it would be if we had a more secure border. I’m all for immigration and people seeking asylum in the US. We are a very powerful country and need to do our part to protect those in need. But we need to know who is coming in.

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Anonymous #1 10w

Did you know that most pathways to asylum in the US have been blocked by our government over the past 15 years? We have been openly violating international asylum law for years. People come “the right way” seeking asylum and we turn them away

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Anonymous #1 10w

The whole point is that we haven’t been honoring asylum for Mexican immigrants. Once they get into the usa to fill out the paperwork with immigration lawyers, they get denied and detained. They many times have to face immigration court alone, like without any lawyers or advice, and this is happening not only to adults but CHILDREN being alone in court against lawyers trying to defend why they should be allowed to stay in the usa. It’s actually a horrible system.

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Anonymous #4 10w

where or in what way did i say that? if anything that’s what you want. or do you only have problems with immigrants that aren’t white?

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Anonymous #4 10w

Hey pal you just blow in from StupidTown?

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