Anonymous nopeish 14w

Multiple choice questions

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

so would that not make it so there’s right answers and wrong answers with no room for nuance or explanation?

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Anonymous nopeish 14w

Just design the questions smartly. Like any other exam

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Anonymous #3 14w

That’s because the US has been super racist in history. But I don’t think me and you are racist

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

I agree with this, it’s one of those things that has historically been implemented for nefarious reasons but at its core can be implemented fairly by people with the right reasons

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

I don’t think there’s any way to create a standardized intelligence test that won’t both be vulnerable to exploitation and bias and won’t disproportionately harm historically oppressed communities (which usually have less education access, may speak a different dialect of English, or may not speak English at all).

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Anonymous #3 14w

You don’t need to speak English to be intelligent

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

You certainly don’t need to speak English to be intelligent, but the fair application of an intelligence test would either require someone to be able to take it in English to the same level as a native English speaker, or would require an availability of tests and test-givers in other languages that could provide the same quality and standards as the English-language tests, which would be difficult.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Think about how much harder it would be to create and provide Tagalog-language tests while applying the same standard as an English-language test. There’s also just no really good way to test overall intelligence, and intelligence in math or literature doesn’t mean someone is politically competent.

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

Haven’t you heard the expression that a fish would look stupid if asked how to climb a tree?

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

And who designs these questions?

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Anonymous #3 14w

Yes you can just have a test in every language that way it’s fair. You can work around the things you mentioned

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Anonymous #5 14w

You can

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

Our country is still very racist and I don’t trust the people in our government to not be racist

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

It would be extremely difficult to provide tests in every language a US citizen might speak to the same standard as English language tests. There’s also no reason that the kind of intelligence that could be tested on a sheet of paper would correlate to someone being politically intelligent. Someone could be good at math or know a lot about books and be extremely gullible.

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Anonymous #3 14w

We already see how students from disadvantaged areas score worse on standardized tests in schools. The use of a standardized test to decide on voting would further marginalize those areas and make them politically irrelevant.

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Anonymous #3 14w

The founding fathers of the United States essentially put their own intelligence test for voting. But because of their existing biases, that meant they limited voting to wealthy people, disenfranchising the poor. You can’t escape the biases of the time.

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

I can what? Design the questions?

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Anonymous #3 14w

Just do them for 99.99% of languages here and fill in the gaps afterward. We shouldn’t be afraid to move forward because it’s not perfect the right way

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Anonymous #5 14w

Yes

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

So then what do the people considered too stupid to vote just not get representation at all?… considering how big of a factor wealth plays into education how exactly do you plan to account for that?…

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Anonymous landtrust 14w

But I can’t, that’s not something that any one person should do. You need to realize that what you’re essentially doing is (and I apologize for this sounding repetitive) a major part of fascism. Making a certain group of people non-citizens?…

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Anonymous #5 14w

They get to reap the benefits of a government making intelligent decisions

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Anonymous #5 14w

Why can’t you? Changes being made should have input by the people it effects

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Anonymous #5 14w

I didn’t say they shouldn’t be citizens

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