Anonymous #1 14h

Tear them down. Put them in a museum if you really want. Prohibit them from public space, from government space, no funding etc. The confederates were traitors to this country and to humanity. They fought a war to enslave people. The confederacy was barbaric and pathetic just like its leaders.

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Anonymous stoner22 14h

One of the confederate statues torn down in Richmond is in a museum now. That’s what you do. This whole “we need to remember the history” excuse is such bullshit. Germany didn’t need to keep up the Hitler statues to remember he existed

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Anonymous #2 14h

What I like about the display in Richmond so much is that it talks about the history of the statue. The real history. Not the fakeass glorification those statues represent. It talks about the lost cause and the racism and how those statues were put up as a way to tell black people post-reconstruction “you aren’t in control”

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Anonymous #2 14h

I kinda butchered the quote: “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." I certainly agree we shouldn’t preserve these statues, but the problem with destroying them is that the vast majority of people are comically uninformed on US History and the nitty gritty of these individuals and their actions. Also, as George Orwell said, “He who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past."

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Anonymous #1 14h

Which is to say, if we destroy even recent history (and to preface this, I am NOT advocating for the confederates nor the confederacy), anyone in power can just say whatever they want about the past and falsify information or change it to benefit them. All I’m saying is we need to remember the past for how it actually happened, and destroying artifacts will offer no benefit to the generations of the future

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Anonymous #2 14h

I agree wholeheardedly with this method

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Anonymous #2 13h

Exactly that’s good.

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Anonymous #1 12h

Yeah. I think the main problem is when people try to use “remember history” as an argument to leave them up unmodified (which you weren’t doing). They should be used as a tool to teach about the history of racism, and that requires altered signage and a different method of presentation.

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Anonymous #2 12h

I think a good example of a country that is doing this wrong is South Africa. The government tries to ignore their colonial history entirely. Old forts are falling into ruin, there’s no museums talking about the colonial era, it’s a bad situation.

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