Anonymous #1 12h

like we are watching rural communities begin to care in real time

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Anonymous #1 12h

Data centers are really good for stimulating the construction jobs, but that’s implying the companies building them are actually truly local. I can tell you if one was built in my area, they wouldn’t contract any local company, they’d contract one an hour or two away. Those people won’t see that they’re only temporary jobs.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 12h

Except that’s only short term, and data centers require minimal continuous employee upkeep. Like I said, rural communities are starting to catch wind of the impact data centers have on their electric bill, their water bill, and the amount of noise they output. And while I’ve never lived in a rural community, constant noise and higher bills seems like a losing pitch in rural communities

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Anonymous #1 11h

I’m largely in agreement with you, not trying to give a vibe that I’m not. I mean you’d probably have people move in that would take the jobs that require to run, the few jobs that it would actually require. Shit, the area I’m in has a prison and a small 4 turbine gas power plant 😬 NIMBYs here are bitching about solar farms, wind turbines, and large scale chicken/turkey/pig farm setups expanding.

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Anonymous #2 11h

what is the statement/take that got you called a NIMBY?

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Anonymous #1 11h

“We’re all NIMBY at the end of the day” -OP

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Anonymous #2 11h

so i think Joker is trying to make a point relying on the base definition of NIMBY, being the acronym, (not in my backyard) and saying that we all have limits to what we’ll tolerate in proximity. but tbh i disagree with that framing because contextually speaking NIMBY has meaningful connotations beyond the acronym

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Anonymous #2 11h

Oh my bad, I forgot the one fucking person that completely destroys my totally serious absolutist position! Everything is invalid now!

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Anonymous #2 11h

lowk i thought for some reason that you had said smth and ppl had called you a NIMBY for it its too late for me to be posting bro

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Anonymous #1 11h

Yup. Pretty much nailed it. The only thing I’d add is that we only care when it’s us. If it’s the next town over 🤷‍♂️ not our pig, not our farm

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Anonymous ___joker__ 11h

no, you’re just ignoring the colloquial definition of NIMBY which refers specifically to urban development and transit infrastructure projects, not the mere rejection of a construction project.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 11h

also like holy doomerism. I can say confidently that I care about areas I don’t live, and many other people do as well.

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Anonymous #1 11h

I’m aware what NIMBY is. It’s usually not necessarily town or community wide, it’s usually used in reference to home owners/HOAs being assholes.

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Anonymous ___joker__ 11h

you’re clearly not that aware because you’ve used it here to describe a pretty distinct phenomenon. NIMBY has an implied quality/value judgement because it acknowledges that the thing at issue is good, but people just don’t want it near them. building new data centers is not good, and is detrimental to the world.

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Anonymous #1 11h

Yeah. I typically try to refrain from my doomerism because I’m not about telling others to give up hope or some shit. I was born and raised in a rural community, lived in a small/moderate sized city(200,000+) for 5-6 years until I got my masters last April. I ended up moving back. I’m largely giving my own experience in living in a rural community

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Anonymous ___joker__ 11h

and it’s fine to share your own experience, but you have to acknowledge that it’s still anecdotal and not representative of the world at large. generalizing your personal experience is poor argumentation.

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Anonymous #1 11h

You’re morally loading it, I’m not. I’m fairly neutral with AI which I’m going to assume you’re probably not. The best example I can think of would be a nuclear power plant. They help larger society but they do have some detrimental effects somewhat similar to data centers in regard to water usage within the areas they’re built.

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Anonymous #1 11h

Of course, that’s why I prefaced why it was my own experience. Despite that, communities are usually only concerned with those in their immediate vicinity. Shit, I’m personally dealing with the government currently with eminent domain regarding large scale power lines being drawn from Chicago up through farm land

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Anonymous ___joker__ 11h

my view on datacenters isn’t related to AI, it’s about inefficiency. we have a fuck ton of datacenters sitting empty at present, waiting for utility hookups or gpus, we shouldn’t be spending money on building more datacenters when we don’t even have hardware to put in our current datacenters

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