Anonymous #1 4w

And what did they do that’s comparable to a fucking sword of Damocles lol? The cabinet can’t simultaneously be weak and ineffectual and also a highly efficient threat, that’s contradictory

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

Ok you don’t know anything apparently

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Anonymous #1 4w

Are you actually going to provide examples to back up your point or just whine about it

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

You know the FBI wasn’t run by Biden right?

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Anonymous #1 4w

When was the FBI hauling people like Charlie Kirk out of their homes in the middle of the night Soviet style lol

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Anonymous #1 4w

Cause you still ain’t providing any actual examples

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

When they raided trumps house, and other republicans

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Anonymous #1 4w

Yeah okay lol, they weren’t hauling anyone away from the property and it was conducted in broad daylight starting at 8:40 in the morning. Trump wasn’t even in Florida when it happened, he was in NY and watched the thing go down via a live feed. The secret service was notified of the whole thing in advance and facilitated the search. Try again lol

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Anonymous #1 4w

What are these examples with “other republicans” lol

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

Roger stone?

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Anonymous #1 4w

You mean when the FBI showed up with a warrant at his door at 5 a.m., knocked and announced themselves to let him know to come out, and then waited for an hour for him to step outside before arresting him for an indictment? Doesn’t exactly sound like being “hauled from your bed in the middle of the night” to me.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Did you actually bother to, y’know, read into how these situations actually went down yourself or are you just running off what grifters tell you?

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

What do you mean?

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Anonymous #1 4w

It was a pretty cut and dry question. Did you actually look up what happened in these situations yourself?

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

I saw them reported on

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Anonymous #1 4w

And where exactly did you read in any of those reports that people were being hauled away in the middle of the night

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

You literally just admitted that

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Anonymous #1 4w

I told you two reports in which one man was arrested with a warrant after willingly stepping out of his house and another in which no one was apprehended in a raid looking for files, both conducted in the middle of the day. So no, I didnt

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

You admitted roger stone was harassed at 5am

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Anonymous #1 4w

I don’t consider an arrest for an indictment where you provide the individual being arrested an hour to vacate their home after knocking and announcing yourself and your purpose for being there harassment, so again, no, I didn’t

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

Ok you’re delusional

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Anonymous #1 4w

Comparing an arrest conducted with a warrant without entering the arrestee’s residence so you can bring them in for an indictment to entering a person’s home and l hauling them out of their bed in the middle of the night is delusional

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Anonymous #1 4w

Explain how Explain how, specifically, it is delusional Dont use a buzz word or backpedal to“I saw it on the news” Explain it

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Anonymous #2 4w

You guys are so disingenuous it’s so funny

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Anonymous #1 4w

Oh wow another scary word, first it’s “delusional” and now it’s “disingenuous”, look at big_al, they have explained in detail every point and opinion they have. I would say it more disingenuous to voice an opinion and then whine like a baby when they are asked to defend it.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Bro you say it’s just police doing their job then whine about ICE

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Anonymous #1 4w

So you’re not actually going to elaborate on anything and just play the “Nuh uh” game, got it. Thats about the level of what I expected.

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Anonymous #1 4w

The two are not comparable, with the police and Roger stone the never entered his residence despite both having a warrant and patiently waiting AN HOUR for him to WILLINGLY step out of his house. With Ice, these are masked, unidentified, armed individuals, storming workplaces and arresting every person who looks vaguely foreign that they see.

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Anonymous #2 4w

Lolol

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Anonymous #1 4w

Okay so yeah you really don’t give a fuck lol

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

You guys are funny

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Anonymous #1 4w

Way to totally pussy out on the conversation once you started losing lol

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

How? You guys just showed how hypocritical you are

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Anonymous #1 4w

Except we didn’t because neither of those cases are comparable to what Kirk said, nor were they harassment. How else was any of this hypcritical

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

You crying about law enforcement enacting the law

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Anonymous #1 4w

The difference is that both those cases were instances where authorities acted within legal boundaries and had proper warrants for their conduct. ICE doesn’t have either of those.

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Anonymous #1 4w

You seem to have a super narrow minded and childish view of how the law actually operates and what justifies actions within it

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

Pot calling the kettle

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Anonymous #1 4w

Are you actually gonna debate this with real points or just “Nuh uh” and say basic shit like that lol

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Anonymous #1 4w

Cause at this point I don’t really see a reason to continue arguing with a moron lol

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Anonymous #1 4w

So yes then? Because you’re not actually making counterpoints lol

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

Yes I am you just don’t like them

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Anonymous #1 4w

I mean I pointed out how ICE and those cases aren’t comparable and all you had to say was “pot calling the kettle” so until you actually have something to say that requires brain cells to form im just gonna consider the conversation over. Like, that’s not a counterpoint dude lol

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

You can’t say “ oh the fbi just doing their job raiding trumps house and bullying roger stone” and at the same time be mad about ice

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Anonymous #1 4w

I can because, like I said, two of those examples were handled with proper procedure and with warrants, within legal boundaries, while ICE continue operates outside of legal boundaries by violating the 5th amendment.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Again, you have to actually use your brain lol, acting like those are comparable is fucking naive.

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

You have no proof ice isn’t following protocol

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Anonymous #1 4w

I have proof they are violating the 5th amendment and therefore the law, specifically 5.6.2.3 which outlines that ICE, can only override due process for citizens and non-citizens in cases of war. Which the Trump administration and by extension ICE have just opted to ignore.

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

lol 5th amendment doesn’t apply to illegals

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Anonymous #1 4w

It does. Your statement is blatantly, objectively false. It applies to both citizens and non citizens. Per this amendment, that includes right now, through trumps illegal misuse of the Alien Enemies act.

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

How is that false?

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Anonymous #1 4w

I just explained to you how it is false. The 5th amendment explicitly states the government cannot “deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law.” Any person included both documented and non documented citizens. Here’s a source breaking it down.

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Anonymous #1 4w

Again, you can “Nuh uh” all you like but that doesn’t negate fact.

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

Apologies, not 5th, that quite is the 14th amendment, which secures 5th amendment rights for all persons. Got my terminology mixed up.

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

You seem to be mixed up a lot, ICE is following the law

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Anonymous #1 4w

Again, they quite literally are not because their entire lack of allowing arrested individuals due process violates amendment 5.2.6.3 within the 5th amendment. We’ve already covered this, try to keep up

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

5.6.2.3*

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Anonymous big_al_the_riddler 4w

If they are here illegally they are guilty

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