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I wish that we gave WWI the same spotlight as WWII. Like WWII was “Not totally evil + the British vs. Pure Evil” so the narrative is better, but WWI had such a good narrative of the young dying for the transgressions of the rich.
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Anonymous 1w

WW1, more than any other war due to the sheer scale, drives home the narrative of “this is all pointless.” There’s no good or bad side like in World War 2 or the Civil War. Young men are truly just fighting for nothing but the ambitions of the upper class.

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Anonymous 1w

WWII was also an imperialist war. Nobody died to save the people in the camps. Jews were scapegoated by the petty bourgeois, but ultimately class interests led the forefront of the events/phenomenon of early 1900s Europe. It was not “less evil vs more evil”. Judging it by evil or good is cattle brained bourgeois mentality.

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Anonymous 6d

The modern world was founded out of WW2, in a way its our creation myth. Especially because it gives legitimacy to the American hegemony, because we’re the good guys!

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

it is possible to understand both that the allies were not acting primarily out of concern for human rights and also to understand that the scale of atrocities committed by the axis during WWII were a bit unprecedented and go “yeah I think that side of the conflict should lose”

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

like I see what you’re saying but arguments like these basically posit that it wouldn’t have made any difference better or worse if the axis won the war and that’s a non-starter.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6d

They weren’t unprecedented though. Maybe for white people, but so many more brown people have died for white profit. Stop with the European exceptionalism.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6d

No it doesn’t do that, judging them from a basis of evil vs not evil bastardizes history especially when you recognize it wasn’t some unique evil.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

gas chambers were new. plus I’m referring to the shit in Manchuria and the pacific theatre as well, which wasn’t Europeans.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6d

Why would a system of killing be unprecedented? Like what does gas chambers have to do with it that makes it unprecedented? The shit in Asia was not unprecedented either? As someone whose family was deeply affected by japan in WWII, it was not some “extraordinary evil”.

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