Anonymous #1 17w

There’s no way we could enforce that. Not a chance in hell. Banning the tipped wage would be a better option. But tipping is so ingrained in our culture it’d take decades to get it to stop. And tbh I don’t think that would be anywhere close to worth it.

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Anonymous #2 17w

Why would that be impossible? People are required to report all tips on their taxes already. We could remove the tip exemption for wages pretty easily. The real reason we don’t is because people make far more money via tips than they could ever expect in pure wages, since a $30 meal + $5 tip is different than a flat $35 meal.

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Anonymous #3 17w

No. Tips will not be taxed.

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Anonymous #8 17w

~$30 with today’s cost of living

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Anonymous #3 17w

I’m already paying more than what’s marked bc of the tip tho? Just need price gouging legislation in place as well

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Anonymous #1 17w

Well if we ban tipping the issue won’t change. We need to make it illegal to not give unlivable wages then we’ll just stop tipping as a community

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Anonymous #3 17w

Okay so this is actually not true. It just means that the workers get a livable wage and the big boss doesn’t get millions. Shut up with your capitalism cock sucking bs

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Anonymous #10 17w

More like $50 with the way our economy is going

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Anonymous #12 16w

Why would that get rid of tipping? We still tip full wage employees today.

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Anonymous #1 16w

Okay but like why would we even care if we just make it so they earn a livable wage either way? Like if they start to earn a living wage tipping becomes way more optional so you could just not do it anymore. Like what is even the point in completely eradicating it entirely.

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Anonymous #1 16w

Because you’re the one that said to impose tipping bans. Other cultures don’t have tipping for almost all jobs that’s what I was referring to.

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Anonymous #2 16w

Because whether or not you tip, and the amount of tip are heavily engrained in our culture and is not based on that individuals wage. If we gave everyone a livable wage, do you really think the tip percent option is going to magically go away? Like why not make more money if you can just by asking? And the majority of people will still succumb to that pressure and tip irregardless of wage

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Anonymous #13 16w

This!! They act like serving is the only option.

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Anonymous #7 16w

Who cares, it’s not like they’re claiming it’s art of trying to sell it

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Anonymous #15 16w

Yes, literally Aldi’s grocery store average starting pay in my state, and at the store near me is $19 an hour for cashiers, and you can realistically live on $12 an hour in my area, a 1 bedroom apartment is around $700 a month. People just don’t want to put in effort or do anything that’s uncomfortable and it grinds my gears.

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Anonymous #13 16w

Nobody should have to live off $12 an hour

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Anonymous #2 16w

We can easily disallow businesses from asking for a tip. Can be enforced by private right of action (suing businesses who do) pretty easily

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Anonymous #16 16w

This doesn’t even make sense because the tips don’t go to the business

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Anonymous #11 16w

How do you plan on price controlling restaurant prices. They all sell food at vastly different quality and service. You can’t just say a burger should cost $5 because places sell different quality burgers.

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Anonymous #3 16w

That is the big problem. You can’t actually control how much profit a business makes. It is BS how businesses blame gov for the high costs. McDonald’s literally makes a 30% net profit even after CA implementing its $20 an hour fast food worker rate

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Anonymous #4 16w

But I’m saying you CAN. If you don’t wanna live off $12 an hour go get a skilled job or just work the cash register at aldis. I’m not sympathetic to people who keep themselves in bad positions because they refuse change. If you are living off $12 an hour, that is due to your own choices and decisions and is no one else’s fault.

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Anonymous #13 16w

I don’t think anybody should starve just bc they don’t have a “skilled job.”

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Anonymous OP 16w

You could cap a restaurants profit margin, but even in that case different places have very different fixed costs and they may have debt obligations from an expensive startup cost. So a profit cap could end up putting people out of business or discouraging a company from investing in a new product.

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Anonymous #13 16w

“Learn a skill or die” is certainly a take

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Anonymous #3 16w

When you dig into the data it looks like capital and labor share are pretty constant when you make the depreciation and inventory adjustments so when companies post higher profits it might just be them selling off inventory. Although that’s kindof a hard case to make for restaurants sense the food can’t really be kept as inventory.

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Anonymous #3 16w

Yeah I don’t think a profit cap is needed, but I see no harm in a business being more transparent to customers about how much profit they make and letting the customers decide if they’re ok paying whatever rates

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Anonymous OP 16w

Perhaps. It will be tricky though because it’s kind-of hard to factor in capital costs and other fixed costs into prices. Idk for me personally if a company is making a low profit I see it less as a mark of “altruism” and more a mark that they don’t have a very efficient system

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Anonymous #3 16w

My issue is that many service businesses make good money and decent margins, but act like it’s the gov that forces high prices. They should be more transparent about their margins and things like food costs

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Anonymous #13 16w

Braindead take

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Anonymous #13 16w

Then who’s going to work the millions of $12 per hour jobs? Is it woke to want all people to not starve to death and be homeless?

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Anonymous OP 16w

No, small business wouldn’t be able to afford all the raises

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Anonymous #16 16w

Almost every other country seems to be doing fine with living wages and no tips

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Anonymous #12 16w

There’s other things in place

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Anonymous #16 16w

If this is true then explain how local small businesses currently exist in states without tipped minimum wage

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Anonymous #16 16w

No the business doesn’t take money from tips, unless they are doing wage theft. Tipping is literally just customers subsidizing wages. If they can’t bump up pay a little bit then that’s an issue with their business

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Anonymous #16 16w

EXACTLY THATS MY FUCKING POINT YOU DUMBASS

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