Anonymous #2 2w

pleasure in ppls mistreatment, they think its the “right thing” because the conversation’s propagandad to them and they’re told its just criminals or that its necessary for whatever reason. this wouldnt be enough to work on its own unless the left was also demonized. theyre told that we are violent and brainwashed. that we are convinced to protest and that the real underlying goal is that the “evil dems” wanna create chaos to reclaim power. this is why posts like this

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Anonymous #2 2w

hit me the wrong way simply because i know its what the republicna party wants us to say/do. it works SO well for the propaganda they’ve already laid out. in short, there’s some maga guy out there rn seeing this and affirming his belief that HES the morally superior one because “the left is so violent”

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Anonymous #2 2w

ICE is more than willing to shoot you if you don’t comply. Armed citizens are needed to defend minority groups. And plus, the left is going to be demonized no matter what, so it doesn’t really matter.

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Anonymous #4 2w

Chat, what looks worse? > abducting people from their homes and driving them away in unmarked cars? > having an edgy sign that says for the people doing the abducting to perish?

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Anonymous #5 2w

Well obviously one is worse but all this sign is doing is giving smth to feed republicans it isn’t progress

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Anonymous #4 2w

That depends on who you consider “us.” The tankies they already use as justification to bash Dems, or the actual Liberals that commies call shit libs and fascists?

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Anonymous #2 2w

He already saw a Hasan fan with 1 follower say something mean, so he already affirmed his wish to execute everyone that doesn’t survive off cheeto seamen

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Anonymous #3 2w

that has nothing ti do with what i said. im talking about the sign

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Anonymous #3 2w

what good does the sign do? do you think an ice agents gonna see it and change his ways? do you think there is any real world effect from him doing this? the only case you could argue is that it going viral online lets people get unified behind that cause, but those people were already against ice. noone that’s for ice is gonna change their mind after seeing this, but what they WILL do is be that much more stubborn in their idea that “the libs” are violent/evil and that THEY need to now become

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Anonymous #3 2w

violent/evil to “save their country” from “the libs”. i have spent way too much time diving into the psyche of these kinds of people, so i can assure you this makes things worse for us

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Anonymous #6 2w

are you talking about me? 1st im a girl, 2nd i dont know much of anything about hasan, 3rd like i said, my parents are maga and its sparked a bit of an obsession with trying to bring them out of it, which has forced me to dive deep into these spaces and get into the psyche of why they feel theyre doing the right thing by following him. this ia a major part of it (the propaganda they’ve seen that the left is violent and trying 2 coop takeover america ar the bidding of the even more evil democrats

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Anonymous #7 2w

Shut up bitch

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Anonymous #2 2w

anyone that supports what is going on right now is beyond saving, they’re pretty much demons who just want people they don’t like to suffer and die, even to their own detriment. We aren’t going to win by being nice to fascists, we have to defeat them.

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Anonymous #4 2w

Yeah because progress would be enacting what’s on the sign. They’re criminals, there can be no peace nor healing in this country in they all get their day in court.

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Anonymous #2 2w

I hope the sign makes those pigs feel scared

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Anonymous #10 2w

well thats an easy way of viewing it. its how people rationalize the existence of any evil they dont understand

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Anonymous #2 2w

What is there to understand? Enlighten me. We’ve all seen what they’re doing. What the hell is there to understand?

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Anonymous swamp_ogre72 2w

Violence is not the way forward. I agree with #2 that it is important to understand the mindsets of republicans who support ice given the propaganda they’ve been fed, and how this feeds into that. To me this even seems like it could be a right wing plant for that exact purpose. Swamp ogre, the ICE agents know they will not be hanged. The only way we will be rid of their evil is if we talk to and work hand in hand with our republican compatriots, not alienate them. They are misled,not the enemy.

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Anonymous #14 2w

This has literally never worked once

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Anonymous #3 2w

What has? Maybe your means aren’t skillful enough.

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Anonymous #14 2w

Bootlicker

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So is the goal to make the ice agents scared, or to show them they’re inflicting fear? These seem like two distinct objectives to me. Either way, fear is bad. It’s an internal response. You don’t have to fear ICE. Your fear gives them strength. I don’t want to inflict fear, even on my enemies. I am sorry if you do.

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theyre not realizing anything from this sign. at best they’re rolling their eyes, at worst they’re using it to view this more as a war/battle theyre engaged in with us. while im sure its well intended, this will affect minorities negatively more than it will help anyone. please try to hear what i am saying

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Anonymous swamp_ogre72 2w

its a nature vs nuture thing. some people are naturally predisposed to support maga, some people were nurtured into it. that second group of people do genuinely think they’re doing the right thing. they think theyre on the side of the law. and they dont believe the left actually wants to help people, they think the democrat officials have manipulated people by weaponizing empathy… and that they use illegal immigrants to control elections, and convince us to send the country into chaos by

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Anonymous #2 2w

fighting and protesting and villainizing republicans (they think we’re the reason we cant get along with them, that we’re too far gone with propaganda and have cemented thr political divide in tbe country all because the democrats want to stay in power)

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Anonymous #8 2w

Dumbass

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Anonymous #2 2w

oh no! the evil ghouls might call me violent if i exercise my 1A and 2A rights to criticize them 😱

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Anonymous #14 2w

Ya Both they should be ashamed and scared Sorry I can’t fathom the fact that masked hooligans are breaking families apart in the name of the law And yeah they deserve to feel as scared as these families do every day

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Anonymous #15 2w

you dont seem ready for this conversation

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Anonymous #2 2w

i don't care if the juvenile respectability-politics-lover thinks i'm ready for this discussion - because i know for a fact you aren't

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Anonymous #2 2w

you're welcome to beg for approval from people who categorically oppose human rights and rule of law though (;

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Anonymous #2 2w

Fully agree. It’s sad how people don’t understand this

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Anonymous #15 2w

thats really what you think im doing? are you hearing the words im saying at all?

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Anonymous #2 1w

That is absolutely what you are doing. they are fascists, they want to do a second Holocaust, that’s their goal. No amount of being civil will fix that. The 2nd American Civil War has already started

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Anonymous #10 1w

Dude you’re just dumb

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Anonymous #10 1w

if you genuinely believe over 50% of the country are unredeemable evil to their core, why are you still living amongst them? deep down you know it isnt like that, you just make yourself feel better when you separate yourself from them so fundamentally. its harder to cope with the fact that people arent always born that way, that there’s a much larger threat behind the scenes

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Anonymous #2 1w

do i think you're begging for approval? no. not currently. i think you're trying to convince others to do so. much worse imo

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Anonymous #15 1w

where is the idea of approval even coming from bruh… all i said is the reality of these kinds of messages is that they have the opposite effect they intent. and i can say that confidently after the years now that i have spent learning what makes them tick, what motivates them to be republican. as stupid as it sounds, this is a big part of it for a lot of people (the idea that the left is anti-law and violent). scroll down on this post, someone literally proved that point already

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Anonymous #10 1w

Who is the “they” boogeyman that is starting a second holocaust?

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Anonymous #14 1w

American capitalists bro pay attention

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Anonymous #3 1w

Is there a profit motive in genocide? Unless you’re joking this is nonsensical

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Anonymous #14 1w

Yes wtf. I need you to tell me how there isn’t a profit motive in genocide

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Anonymous #14 6d

There is… but there’s also an ideological motive. Many of the billionaire class are various sorts of racial supremacists, white supremacists, zionists etc. They want to rule society so obviously they want to kill everyone they don’t like (people of color, LGBT, non-christians etc.)

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Anonymous #10 5d

“There is…” ok. Thanks for the explanation

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Anonymous #14 3d

What there just obviously is? Slave labor.

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Anonymous #10 3d

are we still talking about genocide? doesnt that imply that they are killed, how does forced labor come into play

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Anonymous #10 3d

I think you may be misinformed on what genocide actually entails. I posted the UN’s definition from the Geneva Conventions below. It is the systematic extermination of a group of people, which benefits absolutely nobody, economically or otherwise.

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Anonymous #14 3d

Do you know what Liebensraum is

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Anonymous #14 3d

i think genocide can be a tactic used to obtain for profit, maybe thats what they mean? for example they’re “removing” all the people from gaza so they can have and build on the land. didnt trump want to make it a whole tourist spot? but i think the main motivation for that particular genocide is political and israel just wants the whole region to themselves

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Anonymous #13 3d

Nope. Educate me?

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Anonymous #14 3d

It’s German for “living space” which is what Hitler’s primary motivation was for expansion and extermination/enslavement of the Slavs. Land and resources are both economic drivers of genocide.

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Anonymous #14 3d

1) the land and existing economic infrastructure they're attempting to steal is a valuable asset 2) armed conflict stimulates the economy 3) they are creating a permanent underclass of laborers. all these palestinian children will have worse economic and academic outcomes forcing them into low-wage work. the israelis plan on be there when they come to working age so they can - as the 1st class, dominant group - take advantage

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Anonymous #15 3d

the definition of genocide includes "to destroy... in whole OR in part" and it's important to remember that it's still a genocide even if not everybody is killed and tvat sometimes the goal of this destruction is not total annihilation but rather complete dominance

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Anonymous #15 3d

netenyahu and co. would love for people to all think this is just a religious/political war when in reality that's all a front for a painfully clear land grab they know that americans (where their bread is buttered) are broadly pretty islamophobic so they focus on the arab/muslim factor to keep people from seeing they clearly just want to expand and conquer

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Anonymous #2 3d

Uh the primary way they killed people in the holocaust was in work camps… they worked them to death with minimal food. The gas chamber was for people they deemed “not useful” for forced labor.

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Anonymous #14 3d

Yes it does? It benefits the genocidaires immensely. The Nazis for example, stole an immense amount of wealth. They were literally harvesting the gold from people’s teeth. There are to this day, gold bars and priceless works of art sitting in Switzerland that were stolen from victims of the Holocaust by the Nazis.

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Anonymous #6 3d

“the actual liberals” literally are fascists. They’ve basically cool with what Trump is doing, except that he lacks “decorum”. They’re very cool with Israel doing far worse (because they can just ignore it)

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Anonymous #14 3d

You are trying so hard, it’s almost impressive if it weren’t wasted effort since you’re illiterate.

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Anonymous #10 2d

I’m trying really hard to understand

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Anonymous #14 2d

I don’t even know what we’re arguing about at this point

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Anonymous #14 2d

its a semantics issue. they’re saying that people do genocide in order to obtain profit (through the actions that follow genocide). youre thinking of genocide as more of a racism issue where someone just wants to kill everyone of a certain race, theyre thinking of it as more like a war tactic

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