Anonymous OP 4d

Or maybe lots of people don’t want this and rather than listening and looking for a compromise when that was impossible because the Republicans only care about governing for Republicans, people got fed up and started to do mass un cooperation

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Anonymous #4 4d

The same people that didn’t care when Obama deported 3,000,000, 80% without due process? and what do you mean compromise? That’s called an election babe. You lost, get over it and stop burning cities.

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Anonymous #4 4d

It’s about virtue signaling and fear mongering to push a narrative

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Anonymous OP 4d

Part of being president is governing all Americans, not just Americans that voted for you, it’s a basic prerequisite of the job or at least should be, he represents all of us, not just the people that voted for him, and if people are upset with his policies, it’s no surprise that it will lead to protest, especially since it’s against an armed force that clearly shows less restraint than they should in terms of violence against immigrants and even US citizens

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Anonymous OP 4d

you keep lying to yourselves about that, while also tokenizing Obama in the process. most of us had an issue with how deportations occurred under Obama (and the existence of ICE itself), but that doesn’t help your narrative, does it?

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Anonymous OP 4d

Is it fear mongering if the contents of the speech are true? I assumed fear mongering would be overdramatization or outright propaganda, but I don’t see a single statement on here that isn’t factual or at least mostly truthful. I think fear mongering would require going above and beyond what’s actually happening and that’s not what’s going on in these statements

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Anonymous OP 4d

Also, some people just have a genuine problem with it. It doesn’t require a virtue signaling to dislike when an armed police force is executing citizens on the street for driving away for having a gun when in reality their job description is to capture undocumented immigrants and they don’t technically have a legal basis to detain arrest, non-immigrants or even immigrants that are there legally. It’s weird how the party of line order doesn’t care when the police break the law, just the poor

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Anonymous #5 4d

Kamala Harris didn’t

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Anonymous #4 4d

It absolutely is fear mongering to say people are being kidnapped off the streets for their skin color alone🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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Anonymous #4 4d

Executing😂that bitch had the car facing the officer, then hit the gas. That’s suicide babe. Also if Renee would have been home taking care of her damn kids instead of instigating shit she would still be alive

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Anonymous OP 4d

Consider considering the Supreme Court said it was completely legal for ice agents to racially profile people. I don’t think it’s necessarily that inaccurate what do you call going to Home Depot’s and asking Hispanic people for their ID is that not racial profiling?

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Anonymous OP 4d

I don’t know if we watched the same video but she didn’t even hit him lol, just because DHS said he was injured doesn’t mean he’s actually injured, especially considering DHS has been proven to lie repeatedly under this administration, remember when they said Kilmar Abrego Garcia was part of MS 13 even though he never lived in Venezuela or any part where the gang operates and that he was in America legally on asylum because he was running from El Salvadoran cartels?

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Anonymous #4 4d

They aren’t IDing every Latino they see walking down the street. More fear mongering. They know who they are looking for. Same as any other federal law enforcement. This is the department of homeland secretary we’re talking about. Also harboring a fugitive is a crime, so yeah you’re gonna get asked for your ID lol.

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Anonymous #4 4d

A car is considered a deadly weapon. You point it at me and hit the gas, you will get shot. She should have complied or better yet not been there in the first place… like get a job or something

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Anonymous OP 4d

Then why I have so many citizens been arrested? Why are there numerous news stories over mistaken deportations? Stories about judges, ordering people not to be deported because of its illegal nature, but the administration ignoring them? Remember when multiple Venezuelans were sent to the major prison in El Salvador simply because they were Venezuelan?

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Anonymous #4 4d

Did you not hear the reports of domestic violence +human smuggling and see that he literally has MS13 tattooed on his hands. yeah fuck that guy. He was el Salvadoran and ms13 absolutely does operate their what are you on

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Anonymous OP 4d

And that’s also why there’s no more ice agents in Minnesota and why that guy can’t show his face anywhere, everyone hates him, he’s socially ruined for the rest of his life, and I think that’s a good thing They stopped her, even though she was doing her legal job as a legal observer. She wouldn’t have to be there if ICE didn’t repeatedly break the law in multiple areas. And apparently like you said ice knows who they’re going after so they should’ve known she was a citizen by your logic, right?

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Anonymous OP 4d

If we allow federal law-enforcement agents to shoot people who are either just doing their jobs or just carrying firearms, then the right of being able to just do your job or just carry a firearm is no longer a guaranteed right… Also, as she was driving away, she clearly increased the distance between him and her by turning to the right and anyone that has actually seen the video can clearly see that with their two eyes

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Anonymous OP 4d

As the wise George Orwell once said, “ the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes in the ears; it was their final and most essential command”

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Anonymous #4 4d

Bruh she was blocking federal agents with her car. Obstructing federal agents in their duty is a crime. They had every right to arrest her and she tried to drive away.

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Anonymous OP 4d

The fact that you’re falling for the disproven propaganda is absurd he doesn’t have hand tattoos. Every single major news operation outside of Fox showed that the image was poorly Photoshop by some DHS social media intern. The administration revoked that statement because they were proven untrue yet you still use it because you can’t even keep up with the news or engaged with it at a critical level whatsoever because you’re brain dead.

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Anonymous #4 4d

That’s a lie. Him having tattoos on his hands was even confirmed by CNN. The debate is what the tattoos meant. Where have you been getting your news from bruh.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Not from the fucking bought out mainstream news lol, I don’t need to be told by a corporation what to think, they said cigarettes were healthy and climate change isn’t real lol

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Anonymous #4 4d

So instagram and word of mouth? Lmao

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Anonymous OP 4d

in september of last year, the supreme court ruled on vasquez perdomo v noem that ice is LITERALLY ALLOWED TO RACIALLY PROFILE. THEYRE ALLOWED TO SO THEY DO.

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Anonymous #1 4d

Same Supreme Court case also ruled that ice cannot stop an individual without reasonable suspicion. Same court case blows a hole in your argument. Same thing a normal police officers needs to pull you over.

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Anonymous OP 4d

and the reasonable suspicion was..... that they were illegal, and the case said ice could determine that using race.

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Anonymous #1 4d

Uhhh nooo the same “reasonable suspicion” legal definition has been used since the 60s…

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Anonymous OP 4d

i mean its a given considering your stance but holy jesus the state of your intelligence is absolutely remarkable. youre saying that racial profiling means nothing because you need "reasonable suspicion." RACIAL PROFILING IS WHEN YOU SAY THE SUSPICION IS THEIR RACE. THEYRE ALLOWED TO ACT ON THE SUSPICION THAT SOMEONE IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE OR LANGUAGE.

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Anonymous #1 4d

Look up what constitutes reasonable suspicion. Solely the race of a person does not. The Supreme Court case literally ruled against racial profiling. Maybe read the entire thing next time before using it in an argument, that’s gotta be embarrassing

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Anonymous OP 4d

Search up Kavanaugh stops and tell me that’s not racial profiling It literally allows stops based on spoken language and ethnicity

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Anonymous OP 4d

holy jesus youre fully illiterate. scotus ruled against racial profiling, yes! and racial profiling is when you act upon a suspicion that is solely race based and not actually substantive. but the scotus ruled that ICE, not anyone else, in a specific exception for trump's ICE agents, COULD RACIALLY PROFILE, MEANING THAT A SUSPICION BASED SOLELY ON RACE IS ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY ACTION. if its not this, please do tell what the vasquez perdomo v noem ruling meant in saying racial profiling is allowed

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Anonymous #1 4d

if ICE is allowed to racially profile, what does it mean? since they are allowed, what does it enable them to do? just judge someone? "i dont like that guy because he said hola but i cant do anything?" obviously fucking not you pinheaded walnut

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Anonymous #4 4d

Ice gathers most of their information through data sharing with local law enforcement and federal data bases. They know who these people are before going. It’s not just “let’s go to Minneapolis and stop all the brown people”

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Anonymous OP 4d

What’s a Kavanaugh stop and why is it not racially profiling? Not answering anything until you answer my question

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Anonymous #1 4d

i mean youre deadass sitting here saying that "ice is allowed to racially profile according to the supreme court but also according to an older supreme court ruling they cant racially profile"

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Anonymous #1 4d

Tf are you talking about. Reasonable suspicion has been the standard for a long time. Sorry but if someone REASONABLY looks like the criminal you’re after it’s not racial profiling. That’s how Luigi mangione got arrested.

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Anonymous #1 4d

The factors that got him arrested was based solely on appearance.

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Anonymous OP 4d

yet to share what racial profiling means or what a kavanaugh stop is. just saying nuh uh and something else irrelevant to the ruling.

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Anonymous OP 4d

fucking walnut is a compliment to you

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Anonymous #4 4d

Kavanaugh's Position: Justice Kavanaugh's concurrence argued that while race alone cannot justify a stop, it can be a "relevant factor" when combined with others, such as location or type of employment. Once again proved yourself wrong. 👏👏😂So it’s not based solely on race.

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Anonymous #1 4d

You guys are too funny. I don’t even have to try to debate, you just misinterpret stuff and bring it up on your own LMAO

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Anonymous OP 4d

holy fuck you seriously think thats a win? that kavanaugh said confirming racial profiling is allowed? race is a factor in suspicion? race and employment? holy fuck youre so much dumber than i thought

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Anonymous OP 4d

i walk into wall street and arrest a guy because hes white, talking about stock trading, and has a corporate backpack on. i say my suspicion is that hes committing white collar crimes and fraud you think this is ok?

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Anonymous OP 4d

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep clapping like a seal you fucking imbecile

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Anonymous #1 4d

Well if the criminal you’re after is a white guy you wouldn’t arrest a black guy would you😂. It clearly states “race alone cannot justify a stop”

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Anonymous OP 4d

oh my jesus christ im praying im being baited and that someone cannot be this stupid

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Anonymous #1 4d

You’re grasping at straws. Everything has confirmed that race alone cannot be used to detain someone. This shit is just denial at this point.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Reasonable suspicion is the same thing required by any law enforcement officer to make a stop. But for SPECIFICALLY ice it’s somehow racist. Indoctrinated dumbasses

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Anonymous #1 4d

This is in response to the white guy talking about stocks. Damn straight stop him, if there’s someone that looks like him, in his line of profession, in a federal database as a wanted criminal.

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Anonymous OP 4d

im going to assume this is bait for my own sake but ill say one more thing: saying youre happy that race is a justification for questioning, stopping, arresting is saying immutable characteristics are cause for concern. this is, in the most complete sense, unjust and outwardly evil. these officers are not informed, they do not check databases, they do not act intelligently. it is a very open fact that they are not intellectuals, it is quite literally a point of advertisement in their hiring.

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Anonymous #1 4d

they receive very short training, they are known to act irrationally, erratically, and abusive. there is no punishment for wrongdoing, they are told they have absolute immunity. there is no authority figure for them to report to. saying you want these people, anybody, to act intelligently the most unjust sense is fundamentally heinous and dangerous. you do not want justice nor security, and you will receive neither

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Anonymous #1 4d

As much as you want what you’re saying to be true… it’s not. They are held to the same reasonable suspicion standard, granted the same qualified immunity status, and have access to MORE information than local law enforcement. Held to the same standard or higher as a normal cop, they’re just racist because they don’t support your narrative. Get the fuck outta here.

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Anonymous OP 4d

You do realize people protested too then right? It was less prominent of a political issue because ICE agents weren’t murdering people on the street in broad daylight. Also we didn’t lose… Trump himself said he cheated, and per the 14th Amendment he’s not even allowed to be the president right now.

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Anonymous OP 4d

She was literally driving home, pulled over to let them pass her (because they were speeding), and then was ordered to move by an agent. She moved her car and an another agent ran in front of her car, got out of the way again and then shot her.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Dude those reports were made up by the government… have you seen that photo, they literally badly photoshopped letters onto his hands.

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