Anonymous #1 2d

Go back to Iran where you belong traitor

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Anonymous OP 2d

Go back to Tel Aviv where you belong Zionist

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Anonymous #1 2d

Dude I wish Tel Aviv is sick but I’m an American citizen and I actually am proud to be an American

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Anonymous OP 2d

“Tel Aviv” and “sick” in the same sentence 💔 Just say you think all Palestinians deserve to die 💔

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Anonymous #1 2d

Do you support Hamas?

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Anonymous OP 2d

i don’t support all of their actions nor do I support their original charter labeling all Jews as their enemy I do support resistance to Israeli occupation tho, I just wish they merely targeted military sites rather than civilians

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Anonymous #1 2d

Interesting that you acknowledge that Hamas targets civilians yet you still choose to support them

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Anonymous OP 2d

never said I fully support them, i support certain actions while condemning others, their new charter simply names the “Zionist project” as its enemy, I agree with that and support that, I wouldn’t support them labeling all Jews as the enemy though there’s nuance, are you familiar with that word?

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Anonymous OP 2d

Israel kills more civilians

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Anonymous OP 2d

Also Israel committed a 10/7 nearly everyday in Gaza during the war so as bad as Hamas is, the IDF is so so much worse

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Anonymous #1 2d

I support certain actions that the IDF has taken and condemn some as well.

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Anonymous #3 2d

Even if that were true what does that have to do with Hamas slaughtering innocent civilians?

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Anonymous OP 2d

It's true and Israel is worse

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Anonymous OP 2d

Yeah, I don’t think anything the IDF does in Palestine is justifiable, not a single thing, they are the aggressors and thus receive no sympathy from me

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#1 seems to be engaging in somewhat good faith (for an antizio) you however left a pro nazi comment so I won’t be engaging with you

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Anonymous OP 2d

Hamas has killed ~1100 Israelis total Over 600,000 died in Gaza according to recent studies That’s like nearly 600x more, with a rate of 80%+ civilians according to the IDF’s own data

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Anonymous #3 2d

They aren’t tho but ok

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Anonymous OP 2d

Yeah #2 I talked to in a different thread, he thinks Israel controls the world, he is a genuine neo-Nazi, don’t engage

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Anonymous OP 2d

Israel kills children for fun

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Anonymous #1 2d

That “according to the IDFs own data” lie got debunked. A list of 7800 killed Hamas terrorists names from the IDF got released with no info on any other causalities, there is no released information proving they were civilians. In fact the only one who claims they were civilians is the Hamas run health ministry of Gaza who claims everyone is a civilian

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Anonymous #3 2d

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war For OP, this is a source of American surgeons who volunteered in Gaza saying that IDF snipers intentionally targeted children

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Anonymous #3 2d

Hamas live streams slaughtering civilians while they laugh and cheer. Stop projecting

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Anonymous OP 2d

Gaza Health Ministry is a. been relatively accurate in past conflicts as confirmed by independent investigations, b. their numbers are used by the IDF in their own internal reports so it’s good enough for the Israeli military / government, and c. No, they don’t label everyone a citizen. They do label combatants.

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Anonymous OP 2d

Quiet terrorist apologist

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Anonymous #1 2d

No, the Gaza health ministry has not been accurate. Hamas has been caught countless times lying, you seem to be misinformed and not worth my time

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Anonymous #1 2d

You agree with me that #2 is a nazi yet have the exact same views on Israel as them. What does that make you then?

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Anonymous OP 2d

The Gaza Health Ministry numbers are reliable enough for the literal Israeli military but not for you I guess

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Anonymous OP 2d

An anti-Zionist, I have no issues with Judaism, the religion, or at least no issues outside of the ones I have with organized religion in general I have an issue with Zionism, the political ideology, because I believe it necessitates the colonization and displacement of the Palestinian people

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Anonymous #3 2d

How many live streams have the IDF made while they were slaughtering civilians and laughing about it? Because the people you support have made dozens, you’re the terrorist apologist, stop projecting

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Anonymous OP 2d

They kill citizens for fun but they're not stupid enough to post their war crimes

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Anonymous OP 2d

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1auRXMHi8eY Here’s an IDF soldier bragging about killing and raping Palestinians

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Anonymous #1 2d

I’m sure #2 agrees with everything you just said. You are more alike than you think, you’re just too stupid to realize you’re a nazi

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Anonymous #3 2d

some of them still do, and a lot of them brag about it

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Anonymous OP 2d

nope, opposing a political ideology doesn’t make me anti-Semitic, it’s more anti-Semitic to conflate Zionism and Judaism as inherently the same than it is to be anti-Zionist

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Anonymous OP 2d

You're the nazi here

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Anonymous #3 2d

Nah, the mf talking about “good goyim” is the acc neo-Nazi Zionists are genocidal but they are also not Nazis

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Anonymous #1 2d

Oh no I used the slightly wrong terminology for someone who supports an ethnic genocide :(

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Anonymous #1 2d

Right but you support Hamas’s mission of slaughtering any “Zionist” and even after Hamas changed their charter they still said shit like this. If you don’t fully condemn Hamas you’re a nazi, it’s that simple

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Anonymous OP 2d

Israel wants to eliminate all Palestinians

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Anonymous OP 2d

yes, I condemn this, which is why I never said I support Hamas, I simply support some actions they take in an abstract way bc I support Palestinian armed resistance as soon as it becomes all Jews or includes citizens I’d condemn the action and I don’t support Hamas unconditionally

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Anonymous #3 2d

more like displace than absolutely eliminate, that’s why they keep tryna negotiate with countries so they can take the refugees

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Anonymous #1 2d

If the IDF laid down all their arms and surrendered what would the Palestinian resistance do to the people living in Israel?

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Anonymous OP 2d

They don’t have to lay down their arms entirely, but they should leave Palestinian territory, I have no issue with them defending their border but not when that border is in legally sovereign Palestinian territory

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Anonymous #1 2d

What do you view as “Palestinian territory” do you think Israel has any of their own territory?

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Anonymous OP 2d

yeah, I would support enforcing the 1967 borders before the Israeli occupation after the Six Day War in an ideal world I’d say make it all one democratic state where Jews and Muslims are equal citizens tho

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god forbid I consider both what’s realistic and pragmatic on top of what I ideologically would argue for a one-state solution, although ideal, is simply not realistic unfortunately, at least not immediately

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if incrementalism and nuance makes me a fence-sitting centrist then I’m a fence-sitting centrist I guess

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Anonymous #1 2d

Israel has offered to give back all the territory captured in the ‘67 war, Egypt took back sanai and refused to take back Gaza, Israel has offered a 2 state solution in that territory 5 times all have been refused.

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Anonymous OP 2d

Never offered an unconditional return of all captured and later occupied lands This isn’t mentioning East Jerusalem, Golan Heights, Gaza, or the West Bank

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yeah I’m fine with that, ideology doesn’t get you anywhere unless you acc accomplish something, perfect is the enemy of progress

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Anonymous #1 2d

Did the PLO not agree to the Oslo accords, cuz they did. Just because now they aren’t happy doesn’t mean they didn’t agree to it, Israel is operating according to the agreed upon deal in the West Bank. Once the PLO comes back to the table the next phase of the Oslo accords can be negotiated to give Palestine control of areas B and C

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Anonymous #1 2d

Unfortunately Golan heights overlooks all of Israel and is a national security concern if Hezbollah or Hamas gains access to it and Syria is too unstable to secure it properly so Israel must maintain control

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Anonymous OP 2d

The Israeli cabinet recently voted to label the entire West Bank as “state property” which operates as a de facto annexation (not recognized by the international community) Golan Heights was annexed (not recognized by the majority of the international community) Gaza is actively blockaded and occupied

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Anonymous OP 2d

“We must control land that isn’t ours to protect our people”

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Anonymous #1 2d

I mean it is theirs. Syria started a war from there and lost so Israel took control. Israel isn’t the first country to do something like that. Do you think America and USSR should not have occupied Berlin after WWII?

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Anonymous #1 2d

Israel blocks access between their border and Gaza. Egypt does the same, Egypt is not at war with them, take it up with Egypt

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Anonymous OP 2d

most of the international community doesn’t recognize Golan as Israeli, it can’t just be Israeli because Israel says it is, Syria never allowed Israel to legally control it, aka it’s occupied and no, the occupation of Berlin was legal because it was based on the unconditional surrender of German forces and the total collapse of its government Syria never collapsed, it remained a sovereign entity

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Anonymous OP 2d

Egypt doesn’t want to allow Gazans to flee Gaza because then they’d be complicit in ethnic cleansing

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Anonymous #1 2d

Right but Israel only occupied after Syria started a war and still has not made peace with Israel. You don’t get to attack another sovereign nation, lose, then refuse to negotiate a peace deal and just except them to surrender. But again, Israel is not the only country to do this after being attacked. If you wanna condemn it condemn everyone who does it

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Anonymous #1 2d

If there was a real “genocide” as you claim and Egypt was trapping them inside wouldn’t that make Egypt complicit?

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Anonymous OP 2d

A defensive war doesn’t give you the right to annex territory, the UN charter bans acquiring land through force, also Israel settled civilians on occupied land which is a war crime per Geneva Convention, regardless of who started the war

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Anonymous OP 2d

Forcing flight is called ethnic cleansing, allowing that to happen by choice would make Egypt complicit Israel per the Geneva Convention is the one legally required to help Gazans because they are the ones that effectively control and occupy the territory, a single border crossing to Egypt doesn’t erase Israel’s legal responsibility, also Egypt is not the one with their military in Gaza

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