
I live on a farm, and this year our crops just… aren’t producing. bad seasons are pretty normal, but for our farm to not produce to this extent is crazy. I haven’t seen it this bad before in my life. trees that have been growing apples for before i was even born didn’t produce anything. cherries and blueberries never came in. the garlic we harvested was extremely small bc of the heatwaves and droughts.
I don’t mean to be that guy (I am currently in my senior year of my environment science degree) but this picture isn’t really true. The actual specific local temperatures we all experience aren’t rising, but rather the global average. I’m not saying that isn’t completely detrimental to the entire biosphere, though. Climate change affects weather severity more than anything. There may be summers that are cooler than this one but the overall trend line will be increasing for the rest of our lives
Yeah. Crime rates go up when it’s hot. productivity, sleep, the ability to retain information, most metrics of ability, all drop off dramatically as you start to hit the 95-105 degrees (F) range. Mortality rate rises, particularly in the developing world. That means more people we can’t feed, and a bunch of other things if you’re an immigrant hatemonger-type. This should concern you.
listen I hope ur right, man. I just cannot imagine anything else happening in the event thing accelerate within the next five years. it might be more realistic to fear this in about 20 years time, or so. we are definitely in the finding out portion, however, having allowed our predecessors to thoroughly fuck around. not that “we” let them do anything, my ass was zygotic for the al gore-bush election.
And what I mean by that is the local temperatures will fluctuate, not that we do not see them actively rising already. Weather patterns that change yearly can give places colder summers or winters than they usually have, these patterns and fluctuations will only become more severe with climate change
Nah, I appreciate your input. I obviously dunno what I’m talking about regarding the shit that actually goes down in the troposphere. I do think that this distinction is one that, for a lot of climate “skeptics”, enables them to continue living in blissful ignorance. Global temperature increases will obviously fuck us all over, in the end, but I think it’s a far less compelling argument to lament to an American chud about rising temperatures in the Sahel than what they can directly feel at-home.
i mean it is an image in an internet meme format so it’s kind of intended to be abrasive and hyperbolic in nature. however, my state’s average temperature has risen approximately 5°F since 1970 causing tornadoes to become more common in the area. the image isn’t supposed to be taken at face value but more to be provocative tbh. always appreciate a fellow STEM paragraph guy tho 🩷👍🏼
also, the chickens we have are normally good layers. Previous summers they’d slow down because of the stress heat causes, but this summer they’ve pretty much stopped altogether. 20 hens and we were getting no eggs for a majority of the summer. It’s scary thinking that this could get worse. And not just worse for small farms, but for the big farms that produce the food for the entire country. I think we’ll be seeing that scarcity become the norm in the next few years.
see how every single comment is you attempting some desperate ad hominem since you have no capability of actually addressing what’s being discussed? no, I’m not a bot; and no, I’m not British. maybe if you stopped trying to “win a debate”, and instead had an actual conversation, we could get somewhere. instead, you seemingly feel the need to resort to desperate ad hominem attacks every other comment.
I addressed it by calling it bullshit, using your own words against you. 3 is not a victim. 3 chose to come into this post and chose to begin spreading a message of climate denialism, despite the documented danger of the anthropogenic climate crisis. 3 merely sought attention, and got a different type of attention than they sought out. 3 got what they explicitly came here for: attention. hence why I told them to take their own advice and stop projecting their insecurities.
They *CAN*, but only in the most technical sense of the word. The highest goal of a capitalist is the accumulation of capital. If there is no profit incentive, they will not do it. In the case of big oil, it threatens their industry, so they actively oppose it. Since the state is the mechanism which makes capitalism go smoothly, the state follows suit. In the event that democracy threatens capitalist interests, democracy will be abandoned
you are engaging in the same exact behavior, I might add. attention seeking via the downplaying of the anthropogenic climate crisis. hence why you’d rather fixate on jumping to the defense of 3, instead of contributing anything meaningful to the conversation in the first place. additionally why you had to engage in any attempt at desperately disparaging my messages or my character. you’re unserious, and you’re not here to meaningfully engage aside from distracting from the main topic.
and what was that comment responding to? surely it wasn’t one in which you began the ad hominem attacks, right? also, do I need to remind you that I actually put the effort into explaining how you are wrong, discussing 3’s (and your) attention-seeking behavior? or was ignoring that out of convenience?
dude (since mate was apparently too “British” for you), we have known about the potential impacts of anthropogenic climate change for over 60 years, and companies have conditioned and propagandized people for decades to avoid having to change. on an individual scale, people denying the existence of anthropogenic climate change provides cover. it provides justification for the industries refusing to adopt the necessary changes.
refusing to acknowledge the climate crisis perpetuates the plausible deniability that the richest among us use as justification for not changing their behavior and actions. it perpetuates the false justification that allows for the crisis to worsen day by day. ultimately the majority of fault for this lies with the industries that conditioned the public for decades, but we need to dismantle the dogma somewhere, and we won’t mitigate or solve the issue until we do
like I understand what you mean but we’ve officially reached a point where we do not have the luxury of time where we could have that debate of “well is climate change real? Well what’s causing it? well etc etc etc” yk? We had that luxury for decades and that time is up. we need to be putting action into trying to solve this issue, and we can’t do that until the vast majority of the planet is on board given the type of action that’s actually required to fix this.
like we’re talking about a long-winded crisis that, if left unchecked, has the capability of resulting in the extinction of our species and the majority of life on this planet. this isn’t something for us to be playing around with, it’s something that should be inspiring us to grow and work together; not only for our own sake but for the future of our species (think children, grandchildren, great great great grandchildren, etc)
I fucking wish it was fearmongering. take a look into the data that the IPCC reports; the ice caps are already melting and we’ve already hit 1.1 C degrees of warming post-industrial revolution, estimated to reach 1.5 around the 2030s; it’s even estimated that we might surpass 3.0 C by the end of the century (if not sooner).
If it got to that point there would have to be a regime change but in capitalism you have to and many countries do maintain the balance between profits/growth and the environment. However, because the #1 country pumping out carbon emissions has a heavily socialist/communist government, that shows that those economic systems aren’t solutions to destroying the environment
I would first say there is no balance between profits and emissions. If there is profit to be made, the capitalist will go with that option. If you’re referring to China’s greenhouse gas emissions, I will assume they have the most of any country. However, this is to be expected: they do have a billion people, after all. Per capita, though, they have less greenhouse gas emissions than the United States. In addition, they are actively investing in solar, nature reserves, tree planting, etc.
The last thing I will address is your phrase “If it got to that point”. I’d say it’s already at that point. Companies have their slimy mitts in our congress. Our president routinely flouts the constitution. Even when a president obeys the law, the powers of government are wielded for the advancement of capital interests. We elect a democrat or republican government, which changes things, true, but the underlying structure of the system remains the same. This cannot be changed electorally