.gaia. on Yik Yak | “Antebellum mansion” it was a slave owner’s house. Burn them all. “But they’re a part of history!” Burn them all, pile them in a heap, and put a plaque next to the heap that tells of the evil people who owned those homes and the estates’ slaves.

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US Politics 17w

.gaia.

“Antebellum mansion” it was a slave owner’s house. Burn them all. “But they’re a part of history!” Burn them all, pile them in a heap, and put a plaque next to the heap that tells of the evil people who owned those homes and the estates’ slaves.

Anonymous 17w

As a historian I think they can do a lot of good as museums. Not as airbnbs, that shit’s just evil.

Anonymous 17w

yes let’s continue to destroy historical properties instead of teaching the terrors that took place there great idea

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Anonymous 17w

I think it’s important to keep them as a reminder but if they get burnt down they aren’t worth saving or rebuilding, a replica is almost more racist than the original im(dumbass)o

Anonymous 17w

If this was just a museum I’d feel bad, but people use this as a WEDDING VENUE! It should’ve been burned by Sherman

Anonymous 17w

This is such a horrible take.

Anonymous 17w

I really, truly think these places typically need to be memorialized as a historical tool for teaching people about the atrocity of slavery, but this one? Fuck em, it was being treated as a getaway resort, the slaves quarters were converted into fucking Airbnb’s.

Anonymous 17w

the devil came for his dues with that one

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Anonymous 17w

I think it’s important to preserve historical buildings where horrible things took place so you can see the financial representations of slavery. Esp considering those mansions were built with the inheritance money from children and grandchildren of the original moneybags plantation owner. And ofc so people can physically compare living conditions. Physical, tangible history teaches more than books and plaques

Anonymous 17w

Can I build one in the antebellum style without the slave quarters without getting scrutinized? I just like how pretty they look

Anonymous 17w

I get the point that these buildings should be kept so the memories and the actions won’t just be turned to cinders and forgotten. And I agree that this shouldn’t happen to all these buildings. But honestly if I was there watching that hotel burn I’d sit down and roast popcorn/marshmallows and watch that fuck-ass place die.

Anonymous 17w

Yk, the plantation “Belle Grove” was neighbors with Nottoway Plantation, designed by the same man. Belle Grove was also destroyed by a fire and Nottoway burned 73 years after Belle Grove burned.

Anonymous 17w

The ancestors celebrated

Anonymous 17w

They’re part of history 👍

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Anonymous

#1 17w

I mean I guess but that’s still questionable imo. Yeah, you can like a look but it will always come with its baggage

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.gaia. 17w

But if it’s without the slave quarters, wouldn’t it be way too small to be comparable?

Anonymous

#1 17w

Not even with the land n stuff just the house design, although I do love weeping willow trees

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Anonymous

#1 17w

I mean again, you can never escape the history of the motif. If someone looked at the house you’re speaking of designing and asked what kind of house it is I’d say it’s a plantation-style home. And if they ask what that means I’d be honest and say “plantation-style is a recreation of the homes of plantation owners in the 19th century South.” Yknow, so

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.gaia. 17w

Fair enough, I get what you’re saying. Guess I’ll have to take that risk

Anonymous

#1 17w

Better to explain myself than to not try imo

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Anonymous

#1 17w

I’m no spiritualist but your new construction home would lack the ghosts and demons of the old ones which is a plus

Anonymous

.gaia. 17w

Well that was half the charm, I was gonna duke it out with an ex-slave owner

Anonymous

#3 17w

Exactly. With OPs reasoning why not burn down Auschwitz?

Anonymous

#2 17w

as a historian aswell, these are lasting reminders of what once was nobody alive now has a direct experience of slavery at these locations it’s all just blatant hate and could even be called racist lol

Anonymous

#3 17w

Wait is it hatred to keep em up or tear em down?

Anonymous

#2 17w

wrote my senior thesis on this idea with the Palace of Culture and Science in Warsaw Poland. It was built as a gift from Stalin, used by millions per year both polish and foreign for many different uses. Great way to turn an image of Stalinist rule into a utilitarian project

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#2 17w

tear them down

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Anonymous

#3 17w

They have no value. The slave quarters should be kept. The rest burnt

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.gaia. 17w

If they aren’t burnt they should not be owned by white people that for sure. And absolutely no hotels or profit from them unless those profits go to social services for minorities.

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Anonymous

#2 17w

Not really. Im sure the Germans didn’t keep the homes of the Nazi leaders around.

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Anonymous

#3 17w

This last comment tells me you’re either not a historian or you have a certain kind of bias here. Your word choice is a giveaway.

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.gaia. 17w

There’s a difference between why certain buildings of historic value are kept up or torn down. Plantations aren’t places where slavery or slave owners are honored. They’re memorials. And you said earlier you wanted the quarters of enslaved people preserved, which is why we should preserve the big houses too. That gives us pictures of how the enslaved people in the house worked, what their lives were like, and the house itself gives us a better understanding of slavery and the time period in-

Anonymous

#2 17w

General through artifacts, architecture, and so much more.

Anonymous

#5 17w

rest in peace to those who lived through their cruelty. rest in piss to those who inflicted it - truly may they rot in the dirt and burn in hell

Anonymous

.gaia. 17w

burnt down to be replaced with what exactly?

Anonymous

.gaia. 17w

i agree however black ownership will more likely than not turn it into a bando

Anonymous

#5 17w

absolutely however we are not memorializing them by keeping these buildings you idiots

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goofball41 17w

definitely not worth rebuilding as that would be actually memorializing the terrible events that may have taken place there. Keeping them standing is nothing but a way of remembering the past

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goofball41 17w

This is a great way to put it. Completely agree

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og_beer 17w

also less room for blatant disregard for the history when there is tangible links. Holocaust denier? come to auschwitz and see the horrors that people had to endure. Burning it/tearing it down is about as effective as destroying statues. keep the tangible links, ask why do these individuals has statues, why is it important to keep them?

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Anonymous

#3 17w

Especially in an era where books are being destroyed, history is attempting to be rewritten (some books were never accurate in the first place), and plaques are being taken down and destroyed. We need places we can drag deniers to and rub their face in it. Literally

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og_beer 17w

literally and the worst part is that everyone, OP too, acts as though these building directly affect their lives and oppression when it’s just a social issue they want to focus on instead of real issues

Anonymous

#3 17w

what are you talking about?

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Anonymous

#3 17w

Replaced with nothing. A plaque maybe. The history books and pictures are enough. No reason to keep this evil around. People shouldn’t be allowed to ogle or marvel at these things.

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#5 17w

clearly you’re just a dense “activist” kick rocks if you don’t understand why these buildings are important. you can even look at them strictly architecturally and they’re STILL important

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big_al_the_riddler 17w

yes in this instance let it burn however the argument that all plantation homes should be destroyed is just stupid

Anonymous

.gaia. 17w

I’m not shedding any tears over this burning down, esp bc it was a fuckass hotel, but I do think the remaining sites that are run properly as historical sites and memorials are really important to keeping communal memories of the atrocities of slavery alive. Growing up near one of these things did a lot for me at least to drive home the spatial and temporal proximity of the institution of slavery in a way that wouldn’t have happened otherwise

Anonymous

#3 17w

I agree with that, same reason Auschwitz should he left intact. You can’t wipe away our sins as a people that easily.

Anonymous

big_al_the_riddler 17w

absolutely

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Anonymous

#14 17w

That’s the way to do it

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Anonymous

#13 17w

Didn’t say they weren’t

Anonymous

#3 17w

Big guy this specific plantation was labeled as a resort. IMO there’s only so much bastardization that can happen before the historical context is lost and people just see it as some pretty house to get married at

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og_beer 17w

I agree with this, but Nottoway wasn’t used as a historic site. It was a resort. If they are gonna rebuild use it for what it should be. Not for Jane and Timothy’s wedding venue

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thereal._.ruckus 17w

I’m not disagreeing with the statement specific to nottoway, bc that’s just karmic justice, I’m disagreeing with the generalized “all of them should burn” part

Anonymous

#3 17w

u chronically online mfs needs to start interacting with ppl irl ☠️ you’re arguing with yourself

Anonymous 17w

a bot maybe?

Anonymous 17w

or maybe they meant to make a fake argument with a 2nd account and forgot to switch?

Anonymous

og_beer 17w

Oh yea no I agree. The plantation in New Orleans actually teach proper history and aren’t resorts

Anonymous

#14 17w

U want some of the pics my cousin nem took of the fire? I was at my brothers graduation while it burned 😂

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thereal._.ruckus 17w

We have some that are operated through the state museum. Super cool for field trips especially. Though my dad knew more about the grounds than the tour guides, so maybe we could work on some educational improvements for employees lol

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.gaia. 17w

They did!

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#1 17w

dw I got you. Let me take you to Louisiana there are plenty of old plantations I know about.

Anonymous

#2 17w

There are a few planatations in my hometown that are essentially like this. Educational sites that schools/students/anyone ig can be toured through. Yes, even the former slave quarters. I'd argue it helped me understand the history a lot better back in 5th-8th grade.

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goofball41 17w

Yes. You absolutely nailed it. I'm especially neutral on it since the place (from what I've seen in the comments) turned into a hotel/resort of some kind.

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#15 17w

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