Anonymous #1 17h

Hasan wants democrats to be better and so should their voters

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Anonymous #2 17h

He’s literally said that he wants to take over the Democratic Party

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Anonymous #1 16h

I’d argue the majority of the Dem base want the party to be taken over by progressive like AES, Bernie, AOC, and Zohran. They’re loved by the base while people like Schumer, Jeffries, Ftterman, Steven etc are hated by the base

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Anonymous #1 16h

Who actually supported Harris tho? She was just the lesser of two evils.

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Anonymous #1 16h

hakeem jefferies got yikyak

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Anonymous OP 16h

That’s clearly not true, based on the fact that moderates outperformed progressives and DSA types in the midterms. Also Fetterman used to be a progressive darling. Stevens was resoundly denounced for supporting republicans, so I don’t even know why you brought her up.

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Anonymous #3 16h

Anyone who understood what Trump was trying to do this term. Hasan has a huge platform where he could have generated a lot of support for Harris, but he said Harris and Trump were the same

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Anonymous #1 15h

I mean it's hard to claim that moderates outperformed progressive candidates unless you ignore how much each candidate had spent against them, how much funding they each got from the DNC, the media coverage for & against each of them etc. These are all things that play a major factor that you're obviously ignoring. Not to mention that the vast majority of the Dem slate progressive or moderate ran on left populist rhetoric.

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Anonymous OP 15h

Lastly common progressive ideas like Medicare for all or cutting ties with Israel all poll as extremely popular with the base so it would be wild to assume that the midterms proves that people are against that stuff.

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Anonymous #1 15h

Dude was critical of Harris without a doubt but to blame her lost on his is crazy. Beyoncé & Tayler Swift both came out in support of her hugely & she didn’t win so to think Hasan would have made a difference if he wasn’t critical is wild. Also despite being critical of her he repeatedly said she’d be better then Trump & if you vote for Trump you’re an idiot. He also repeatedly said Jill Stein is a grifter. Plus he voted for Harris himself as did the vast majority of his audience.

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Anonymous OP 15h

Lastly he said that Trump & Harris would be the same in sending money to Israel which idk if you think he was wrong on that. But he also said Trump would find a way to somehow be worst on Israel

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Anonymous #1 15h

I understood perfectly well what a Trump term would look like. I’m surprised people were shocked when Trump started doing what he did once he got in office. I gave my vote to Harris but in no way, shape, or form did I think she was “good” or worthy of support

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Anonymous OP 14h

I didn’t say that he was outcome determinative, but he contributed voter apathy and bashing of Harris which undoubtedly helped Trump. If he wanted to he could have mobilized his audience to actually support Harris, but instead he continuously called her “Holocaust Harris”

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Anonymous OP 14h

All of the data shows that moderates outperformed the progressive wing. I’ll continue to believe this until a comprehensive study or review including the factors you mentioned is done. I agree that candidates are generally moving left in the Democratic Party, Biden was more liberal than Obama for example, but many people think the democrats are moving too far. Also your initial claim that democrats want to help republicans is unfounded.

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Anonymous #1 14h

You say all data while also saying you’ll wait for a comprehensive study. Centuries & moderates claiming that it’s true isn’t all data. Like you said we’ll need to for a comprehensive study that factors in all of the things I mentioned. Like are we going to say that Jared Moskowitz winning in FL & Angie Nixon losing means that the most important thing to Florida voters is supporting Israel & they hate progressive policies or are we going to analyze how close Nixon got to winning while openly

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Anonymous OP 14h

Running as a socialist. Also why did the DNC give Moskowitz 25 million for a house race but only gave Nixon 5k the day before for a Senate race. Isn’t an addition senate seat far more important then 1 additional house seat? I don’t think people think the Dems are moving too far left at studies show the average person doesn’t view moderate or liberal off of policy but off of vibes. Minority’s are automatically seen as more liberal even if they have moderate policies

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Anonymous #1 14h

If over 85% of his audience voted for Harries how much voter apathy do you believe he created for her? Also his he as a political commentator not allowed to criticize Harries saying she’s going to be no different then Biden who was historically unpopular, that she is loyal to Israel & their protection, that Iran is our greatest adversary etc

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Anonymous OP 13h

I would be interested to know where that number is from. He’s allowed to make the statement I guess, but I don’t think anyone should listen to him, least of all democrats

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Anonymous #1 13h

He did a poll of his audience when he had peak viewership on election night. That’s where the number comes from. I think it’s fine to say you believe Dems shouldn’t listen to him but do you believe those criticisms were wrong & were things that most voters wanted to hear from her?

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