Anonymous #1 7w

Oh so gerrymandering is okay as long as it’s done at the start of the decade?

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Anonymous #1 7w

You genuinely believe that Republicans getting a minority of seats in a state they won the popular vote in is BETTER than Texas? Least biased liberal over here…

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Anonymous OP 7w

yes?? because congressional seats are decided by district, as a state overall. illinois’s is pretty gerrymandered, but the districts in Nevada are perfectly logical.

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Anonymous #2 7w

*not as a state overall

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Anonymous #2 7w

the districts in nevada are quite normally shaped.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Umm no. Distracts must meet several criteria. Yes, one is that they must be reasonably shaped. But another is that they must be as equal as possible to the states popular vote. A more fair Nevada map would have two Vegas based districts and then one with some Vegas suburbs stretching up the California border to Carson City

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Anonymous OP 7w

Your second point just isn’t true. That’s not how districts are drawn, if we did that it’d literally be gerrymandering, because you’d be intentionally diluting organic communities (i.e. cities) to match the voting habits of sparsely populated rural areas. districts have to be roughly equal in population.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Yes. You are correct. I misspoke and I’m sorry for that. That being said, the makeup of the congressional delegation should be representative of the state as a whole. Because that’s what politicians are supposed to do. And representing 25% of districts in a state where you got about 50% of the popular vote is not representative. Just admit that Nevada’s map is gerrymandered 😂

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Anonymous OP 7w

It isn’t. And frankly I would support them gerrymandering it to be more blue since Texas has declared intentions to literally rig the midterms with early redistricting. If you want more representative districts, perhaps we should expand the house which we randomly stopped doing in the 1920s.

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Anonymous #2 7w

You just don’t know what you’re talking about. Plain and simple

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Anonymous #3 7w

Nevada has received an F from non partisan sources for their fairness. But fine. Illinois is also mentioned. You know… the most gerrymandered state

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Anonymous OP 7w

lmao Texas is the most gerrymandered state

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Anonymous #2 7w

Not currently

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Anonymous OP 7w

With the new map it is

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Anonymous OP 7w

You want me to show you Florida, both Carolinas, Texas, Wisconsin,

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Anonymous #4 7w

Before that it competed with Illinois

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Anonymous #4 7w

Competed*

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Anonymous #4 7w

Wisconsin is not gerrymandered. It has two competitive districts. And sure, you can show me those other states. Then I’ll show you Maryland, New Mexico, and Oregon. Hell even Alabama has a map that’s considered Democrat favorable

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Anonymous OP 7w

Is this red eagle politics?

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Anonymous #4 7w

Lmao no. Fuck that guy he’s basically a white nationalist

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Anonymous OP 7w

You clearly don’t know how gerrymandering works if you can’t see Wisconsin is gerrymandered to hell

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Anonymous #4 7w

But seriously any map that doesn’t have Maryland in the red is not reliable. Even the most left biased people admit Maryland is gerrymandered

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Anonymous #4 7w

Magically the 2 Dem districts are D+26, and D+21 being packed when the republicans are spread out and cracked across the districts to get a good safe seat but also competitive seat spread.

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Anonymous #4 7w

Wisconsin just has terrible geography for democrats. Almost every dem in the state is in Madison and Milwaukee

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Anonymous OP 7w

Most states Dems live in one area…

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Anonymous #4 7w

Yes Democrats do tend to be more compact but in Wisconsin it’s particularly extreme

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Anonymous #4 7w

And that’s literally what I’m saying about Nevada too lmao. Most republicans packed into one deep red district and then the other three are magically just enough to be lean democrat. But you’re saying Nevada isn’t gerrymandered. Makeup your mind lol

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Anonymous OP 7w

I never said Nevada isn’t even the chart I pulled up agrees it’s gerrymandered.

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Anonymous #4 7w

What I’m more trying to say is that on average republicans currently gerrymander way more and a lot worse.

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Anonymous #4 7w

My b. I got you mixed up with someone else. But my point still stands that drawing four dem districts in Wisconsin would be incredibly difficult

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Anonymous #4 7w

Well I just disagree. We do it for sure. But dems do it a lot too. And dems are far more likely to criticize gerrymandering

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Anonymous OP 7w

I’ve done worse..

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Anonymous #4 7w

Here’s a map I made personally as a meme

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Anonymous #4 7w

I could easily make a VRA complaint 4 Dem lean mal

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Anonymous #4 7w

That’s an abomination

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Anonymous #4 7w

Map*

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Anonymous OP 7w

Correct 🤣

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Anonymous #4 7w

But unfortunately that’s probably what the map will look like in 10 years 😢

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Anonymous OP 7w

I doubt it the Dems have been pretty alr on gerrymandering with most of the Dem states having independent commissions.

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Anonymous #4 7w

There’s also a reason I’m skeptical they will even redraw after the Texas thing. If they do even this is anti democratic when your opponents are doing it and you don’t you are just giving up.

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Anonymous #4 7w

In my opinion the most fair states are Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Pennsylvania, and Virginia

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Anonymous OP 7w

Currently Wisconsin has a gerrymandering court battle ongoing

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Anonymous #4 7w

Washington too. I know Cali’s technically got an independent commission but I don’t actually think it’s super independent

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Anonymous OP 7w

Pennsylvania is rlly good imo it’s split 50/50 which for a state that basically votes 50/50 is good

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Anonymous #4 7w

Pennsylvania’s old map was one of the most cursed things I’ve ever seen. I’m so glad that’s gone even if I did give the GOP the advantage

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Anonymous #4 7w

I personally advocate tho for instead of landed voting do it by % where if let’s say state voted 60% Dem but 40% Republican in a state with like 10 reps you’d send 6 Dems and 4 republicans who rank the highest kind of like Germanys parliament

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Anonymous #4 7w

I’d be in favor of that too

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Anonymous #4 7w

Where you rank candidates and also party

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Anonymous #4 7w

It makes so your voice can’t be taken away as much and your vote no matter what counts

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