Anonymous #1 1w

No, the right to self defense (if you're trying to analogize it with abortion a better way would be to say it's like if the mother's life were in danger)

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Anonymous OP 1w

Good point! Just wanting to ya know make sure the logic was sound across the board

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Anonymous #1 1w

For sure and in line with that analogy I support any abortion where the mother's life is in danger but not every situation where the choice is made electively (as I would with murder).

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Anonymous OP 1w

cool how you’ll define your life being in danger as someone on your property without consent but you don’t define something, not *even* a someone, being in a person’s actual body without consent as a threat to their life

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Anonymous ilovemychunguslifee 1w

well we gave corporations rights so why not

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Anonymous #2 1w

? When did I say that

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Anonymous #2 1w

Rape is physical violence, trespassing and committing no other crime is a land issue

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Anonymous #3 1w

Good point. Non lethal self defense arms like beanbag rounds, pepper spray, tasers should all be available too. I don't support killing anyone besides to directly and immediately protect your own life.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Statistically you'll never have to shoot someone. Even lower odds that you'll get away with it with no conviction. 9/10 when someone pulls the trigger there's something else that could've been done or someone made a poor decision that lead to it.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Still doesn't mean it shouldn't be an option. Some studies say it stops 550 rapes per day and 2.5 million crimes annually

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Anonymous #3 1w

"it" being defensive gun use to be clear

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Anonymous OP 1w

Most self defense incidents are just that, accidents. Last year someone shot their kid for entering their home around Christmas time because of a surprise visit. Earlier this year someone tried to Kill a bird in their house by shooting it but shot their daughter and killed her.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Study conducted by who?

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Anonymous #3 1w

That's a huge misinterpretation

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Anonymous #3 1w

Florida State University did using a random digit dialed census of United States citizens, controlling for factors such as gender, predisposition to being involved in such acts for work, etc IIRC

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Anonymous OP 1w

You cannot discount the innocents who die for this "right". Innocent people die to gun violence every day.

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Anonymous OP 1w

People are shit for road rage. People are shot hunting. People die from guns exploding. People die simply by existing in public places. Guns hurt people. Guns shouldn't have rights. If guns were people you'd want them all deported.

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Anonymous #3 1w

These are in the vast minority of gun deaths. People die working, driving, eating, walking and all types of ways but that doesn't mean that we should take this edge case and say it's extremely common

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Anonymous OP 1w

Guns year after year are always in the top 5 causes of death.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Which the majority of are suicide

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Anonymous #3 1w

There are about half as many suicides by hanging too, should we outlaw rope too?

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Anonymous OP 1w

You know how you drop the gun deaths though?

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Anonymous #3 1w

Same way you drop the defensive gun uses

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Anonymous #3 1w

I'm guessing is what you want me to say

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Anonymous OP 1w

Mental health funding through taxes, better background checks, and bans of semi auto firearms.

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Anonymous #3 1w

So grandpappy's civil war revolver that doesn't even count as a firearm currently and has no serialization or registration requirements? Good luck with that

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Anonymous #3 1w

The ATF can't even stop all the glock switches coming in from China

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Anonymous OP 1w

They've been defunded consistently for decades.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Guns should be classified by classes. Classes that should be regulated differently depending on what it is.

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Anonymous #3 1w

You'd think that'd lower the level of dogs being shot but they're tricky fuckers

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Anonymous #3 1w

They are... do you know anything about gun law?

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Anonymous OP 1w

I do actually. I probably down more guns that you do.

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Anonymous #3 1w

How many then?

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Anonymous #3 1w

I got 15 right now

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Anonymous OP 1w

12

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Anonymous #3 1w

So you managed to own 12 guns but don't even know how they are classified?

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Anonymous OP 1w

I'm saying the class system is flawed. You're not very good at this lol. I'm done here.

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Anonymous #3 1w

You could have said that? I was clarifying

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Anonymous #3 1w

Also how are you going to be so elitist about your views when you're pushing unattainable goals with UBI, an ever changing class system for guns based on "whats going on" (that sounds like a fucking nightmare legally), and literally want to ban the majority of guns in use right now?

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Anonymous #3 1w

That's total fudd logic and I personally like to wait until the fudds wither away then buy their cool war relics off their wife for 1/40 of market price

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Anonymous OP 1w

you just said it. my comment is obviously about abortion, not rape. take a literacy evaluation bud.

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Anonymous #2 1w

You said "in someone else's body". I thought you guys claimed it wasn't a life yet?

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Anonymous OP 1w

I literally said “not even a someone”. Again, you’re illiterate.

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