Considering that Israel is the violent illegal occupier who created the apartheid & is currently doing the genocide, on top of the fact that Bibi & the war cabinet have on multiple occasions rejected getting the remaining hostages back. I think it would help if they acknowledged the suffering of Palestinians but I would NEVER say every Israeli who wants to get their hostages back should all be put in a room & FORCED to watch videos of the IDF committing war crimes for years.

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That sounds ridiculous but hey it sounds like you see things differently

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No I don’t know what you mean. You’re talking with the assumption that they have 0 empathy for the Israelis or that I don’t view Israelis as humans. You’re also talking like no one has seen any footage from 10/7 or that forcing people to watch videos from 10/7 would somehow make people change their minds about Israel being an apartheid & doing a genocide

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Like what do you want Greta to say? What is her eyes not open to in your opinion? What will the 10/7 vids change in her head?

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Can you please provide links of her mocking the hostages. I have not seen anything of the sort. I have seen Israel mocking her efforts

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Also do you honestly think that advocating for the illegal occupation & genocide to end doesn’t mean a permanent cease & all the hostages on both sides coming home?

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

*permanent ceasefire

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No way you genuinely believe that people advocating for the genocide to end don’t want a ceasefire how does that even work? Or believe that Israel would not receive their hostages back please explain how that makes logical sense

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Also that’s up to Bibi because again Hamas has asked for a permanent ceasefire multiple times & return of all Israeli hostages but Bibi keeps rejecting it

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

As for them being kidnapped. I mean they were abducted from their Flotilla in international waters

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

People are still being held by the Israeli military

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How does what you say about Hamsa hanging out longer make any sense if Israel is the one rejecting getting the hostages back & permanent ceasefire

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

You claim you want these things & only one said is advocating for the things you claim to want. Yet you’re saying they should do more like what? They have no power in the situation

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Please explain to me how Hamas is holding out. Like what are they doing specifically that justifies Israel refusing to take back all the hostages & do a permanent ceasefire.

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Okay so does that give Israel the right to kidnap them in international waters for the crime of trying to feed the people that Israel is purposely starving?

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So you didn’t answer the question you said it’s also Hamas fault that Israel keeps rejecting a permanent ceasefire & receiving all of the hostages. Can you please explain how it’s Hamas fault for Israel continuing to reject a permanent ceasefire & the return of all the Israeli hostages

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I mean Hamas has offered in the permeant ceasefire to step down & relinquishing of power which Israel is rejecting. Also they are offering all the hostages

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As for no nation just lets people into combat zones. No nation should be creating a man made famine but hey Israel is doing that. So should everyone just listen to the apartheid regime commuting a genocide?

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Imagine if people said well the Nazis are telling people they can’t help the Jews so I guess help the Jews is bad. Or Apartheid South Africa said helping black people is wrong so everyone said okay guess it’s wrong I won’t do that

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Yes they are refusing to disarm because Israel is refusing to end their illegal occupation. Israel is their illegally I think it’s reasonable for Israel to end the illegal occupation before Hamas disarms

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

If Israel really wanted the hostages back they would have them back but Bibi & the war cabinet are committed to the ethnic cleansing of the Gaza Strip even at the cost of the hostages

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So now you’re saying that Israel needs to be an apartheid & do a genocide out of defense. That’s insane

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How am I misinterpreting? You literally are claiming that Israel can’t end its illegal occupation which in turn means it’s apartheid & genocide due to fear of Hamas. So it makes it sound like you’re trying to claim Israel has to do these things in defense

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Like do yo think the people living under an apartheid & being colonized would just take it? Or that they should just take it?

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But only one party is still saying they will keep going & are opposed to stopping & that’s Israel. Again if Israel genuinely wants things to end they can stop it they have all the power in this situation. Same goes for America who has more power than Israel. Until Israel & America want things to end it will continue

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So you genuinely believe that the country that the country that created the apartheid & are doing the genocide or the country arming & financially supporting the apartheid government doing the genocide don’t have the power to stop said apartheid & genocide?

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Idk sounds like you are again trying to make it sound like Israel is forced to be an apartheid & do a genocide out of defense

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Like do you believe the Nazis didn’t have the power to end the holocaust any time they wanted or that South Africa couldn’t just end their apartheid whenever they felt like it?

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Hell even America with slavery, Jim Crow, the internment camps, etc was America powerless to stop whenever they felt like it?

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

What about Russia? Could they not just end their invasion of Ukraine whenever they feel like it?

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So you are again claiming that Israel has to keep doing a genocide & being an apartheid or else the people forced to live under apartheid & survive a genocide will want revenge. Lol everyone claims that. Whites said the same thing as an excuse for why they couldn’t end the apartheid in South Africa, or Jim Crow, or slavery yet white people are still here.

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I mean the same is true of Hamas. It’s silly to believe they are operating on just want to kill as many Jews as possible & nothing else. All things given that makes 0 logic sense

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What are you talking about? The Ukrainian government & military are literally fighting back

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I think the apartheid & genocide create said threat

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Crazy that you make that claim regarding October 7th yet 2023 was named the deadliest year for Palestinians children in the West Bank do to being killed by the IDF and that was before 10/7 and Hamas doesn’t run the West Bank crazy how that works

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I mean Israel is under international law belligerent illegal occupying force so that makes all of their actions in Gaza & the West Bank illegal & it also makes all of Hamas actions within Gaza defensive. And before you say anything no I’m not calling Hamases horrible actions on 10/7 defensive

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I mean you’re telling me to look & listen to all the aspects and it’s just you literally repeating why Israel has to do a genocide & be an apartheid in your opinion

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I mean you claim 10/7 was proof that Hamas only cares about killing Jews & nothing else & I’m just saying while Hamas actions on 10/7 are without a doubt horrible it’s stupid to think it happened simply because Hamas wants to kill all the Jews especially when you consider what 2023 looked like for Palestinians before 10/7 thanks to the actions of Israel

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Israel was still bombing Gaza & allowing just enough aid for the people to survive but nothing more prior to 10/7

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Observation isn’t justification before you say anything. So you genuinely believe that before forced to live under an apartheid had 0 to do with 10/7? If there was no apartheid & everyone had equal rights 10/7 would still have happened? Also in all the examples I gave before innocent people were killed which is again not good or justifiable but wouldn’t say that those other groups just wanted to kill people & didn’t even care about gaining equal rights

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So you’re telling me despite their in your own words being a ceasefire in place prior to 10/7 2023 was still the deadliest year for Palestinian children due to being killed by the IDF & that was prior to 10/7. Damn that’s crazy doesn’t sound like much of a ceasefire in my opinion unless you believe killing Palestinians doesn’t break the ceasefire which is sounds like is your belief

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Can’t say I’m too surprised since you keep trying to claim that Israel has to keep it’s apartheid & continue it’s genocide out of defense

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Yeah because most people want to live under Israel’s apartheid & genocide sure.

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Hamas doesn’t even run the West Bank so it sounds like Israel was just killing the kids for fun out there. Damn that’s insane

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It definitely sounds like what you’re saying since you talking about how Hamas is the reason Israel can’t just stop the apartheid & genocide

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I would image people being genocideed probably feel like they might as well die fighting since Israel plans on killing them regardless. Hell they were killing kids in the West Bank for fun from it sounds like

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It doesn’t make me feel comfortable that someone believes that an apartheid & genocide can be done in defense.

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I don’t have to imagine when you keep repeating it. You don’t believe in Israel ending its illegal occupation because Hamas scary, you say both sides need to come together for a ceasefire yet only Israel keeps saying it doesn’t want a ceasefire & you go will Hamas needs to be destroyed before this ends or else it will happen again so Israel can’t end its apartheid & genocide just yet. Idk sounds pretty clear to me what you believe

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

“ Sure Israel’s actions are bad but if Israel ends the apartheid & genocide now Hamas will go back on their word & kill everyone so Israel can’t just stop the apartheid & genocide” that’s what you keep saying

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

But thanks for wishing me fun & I hope you enjoy repeating the same talking points white people gave when they refused to end slavery, Jim Crow, and apartheid. At the end of the day oppressors are all the same. They have to keep scaring themselves in order to justify their actions in their hearts & minds

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Honestly no. Pro genocide people don’t make me comfortable but it sounds like they make you comfortable never again only applies Israelis I guess

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I read everything you said. Sounds like projection since Greta nor I am are advocating for an apartheid or genocide

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Also I didn’t see anywhere saying she wouldn’t watch it just that they planned to force her to watch it

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

But are implying that watching the 10/7 footage would make them go never mind Israel is right to do a man made famine

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No I just think the group doing the genocide has the power to stop the genocide they are doing where as you disagree & believe it’s somewhat of a defensive genocide& they can’t just stop doing a genocide

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

Or other disagreement is I believe you can’t be an apartheid in defense if r do a genocide in defense where as you believe sometimes you can

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Anonymous drums_of_liberation 14w

*our other

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It’s what your words say it is

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