Anonymous #4 3d

Lol. Ironically, I’m a medical student. There’s a reason the best doctors from all those countries want to come here, and it’s much harder to match to residency here if you’re from those countries. Plus, even if they did residency in that country and are fly trained, they’re forced to do it again here because their training is seen as “subpar.”

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3d

The idea that the average American is unhealthy enough to DOUBLE the per capita spending of Germany and not just that we pay higher prices…

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Anonymous OP 3d

Fully trained*

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Anonymous OP 3d

The reason people want to come to America is because we’ve ravaged most of the rest of the world with imperialism, dingus. You get more money here. It’s not a commendation of our medical system. It’s the pragmatic choice with the benefit of shorting those other nations of talented people

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3d

Which needs to be worked on. You can blame the ACA for that and administrative bloat. Put doctors in charge and kick out the money hungry MBAs/bureaucrats and large part of that problem is solved.

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Anonymous OP 3d

Why would I blame Obamacare when I could read numbers and blame insurance racketeers instead? Please never practice in my state

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3d

They are part of the administrative bloat I’ve mentioned. But ACA has caused insurance premiums to explode over time. That’s just a fact.

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3d

Sure, man. Doesn’t change the fact that their training is inferior to ours.

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Anonymous OP 3d

The problem is for-profit care, period. Barring revolution, I don’t see that changing soon. But the reason insurance goes up is because what are you gonna do, die without it? Static demand. Econ 101

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3d

There are only certain hospitals that are for-profit. All HCAs for example. Trust me, none of us want to do residency at those hospitals if we can help it. Academic places aren’t. But again, the main problem is money hungry administrators. I will completely agree with you on that.

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Anonymous OP 3d

lmao you’re not a medical student. i can guarantee giving that answer during an interview would’ve lost you a seat 💀

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Anonymous #4 3d

almost like this isn’t an interview

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Anonymous #4 3d

Good thing they didn’t ask that question then. Probably because it’s common knowledge. But I most definitely am. Why do you think I know all of this 😂

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Anonymous OP 3d

this is literally wrong wtf. foreign doctors don’t have to redo residency here because their training is “subpar,” it’s just that every country’s system is different and the u.s. wants everyone standardized for legal and insurance reasons. it’s also harder for international grads to match because of limited slots and visa stuff. some of the best doctors i’ve worked with were foreign-trained.

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Anonymous OP 3d

you actually don’t know shit bc you’re a dumbass. you didn’t even mention the price-gouging, insurance middlemen, and profit-driven hospitals, the major driving factors for healthcare costs. who tf blames patients for not being able to afford treatment?

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Anonymous OP 3d

nothing magically justifies a system that bankrupts people because they don’t live a perfect lifestyle. plenty of other countries have world-class medicine and universal access without drowning people in bills. stop confusing shiny equipment and massive bills with quality healthcare.

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Anonymous #4 3d

Yeah for “standardization and insurance reasons” because insurance here views their training as subpar. Because it is. You know it and I know it. Some foreign doctors are great, yes. But a lot are terrible. Aka one of the doctors I scribed for. Most train at shitty hospitals that no US graduate wants to go to.

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Anonymous #4 3d

I clearly already mentioned all of those factors if you’d just read. Bloated money hungry admin is the source for 99% of why our healthcare is so expensive. To the point where if every doctor worked for free, it’d only drop spending by ~8%. Calm the fuck down. I agree with you on that.

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Anonymous OP 3d

no, that’s not how it works. insurance companies don’t decide who’s “qualified”. licensing boards and medical councils do. the reason foreign doctors redo residency isn’t because their training is “bad,” it’s because the u.s. doesn’t have reciprocal agreements with other countries’ medical boards.

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Anonymous OP 3d

so why tf did you lead your post with people being fat and lazy and that’s why they can’t afford to get treatment?

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Anonymous OP 3d

saying “most train at shitty hospitals no us grad wants” is just arrogant and wrong. tons of international hospitals produce physicians who are just as competent, often more experienced, because they see higher patient loads and more complex cases. the u.s. literally relies on them; about a third of doctors here are foreign-trained. if their training were actually “subpar,” american healthcare would collapse overnight

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Anonymous #4 3d

Dude. It’s bad. It’s why most don’t land at big academic institutions, but instead at shitty for-profit hospitals. In academic circles their training is seen as inferior which is why you don’t see them taking up many coveted residency positions unless they’re from Oxford or something. That and their board scores just aren’t good enough.

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Anonymous #4 3d

I’m saying we spend more because as a country on healthcare because on average we’re not as healthy. Has nothing to do with affordability of care.

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Anonymous OP 3d

no i don’t know why you keep saying that these foreign doctors are bad, are you racist or something? they end up in these shitty hospitals because the u.s. system makes it insanely hard for them to get visas, funding, or match spots at academic centers, no matter how good they are. residency selection isn’t some pure meritocracy, it’s loaded with bureaucracy, nepotism, and institutional bias toward u.s. grads.

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Anonymous #4 3d

Lmao you’re just making shit up. IMGs only take up about 19% of first year residency slots per 2025 match data. And the vast majority of them are in non competitive specialties at shitty hospitals. Look it up 😂

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Anonymous #4 3d

I don’t know why you’re yelling at me when this is just the common sentiment at most academic medical centers. Their board scores suck on average compared to US grads, and they typically don’t have as standardized undergraduate medial education as us. Not trying to be mean but it’s just the common sentiment at these big academic places. Add that on top of the Visa requirements and hoops extra hoops to jump through, they don’t want to take a chance on them. Sucks, but it is what it is.

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Anonymous OP 3d

you’re literally just cherry picking a stat to fit your narrative. first of all, that only represents newly matched residents, not the entire physician workforce. second of all, do you understand why they only take up 19% of first year residency slots? bc again, visa issues, citizenship bias, and funding limits. multiple studies show IMGs actually have equal or better patient outcomes than u.s.-trained doctors, particularly in internal medicine and primary care. look that up.

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Anonymous #4 3d

Probably because most of the time, the dumbest of US med school grads typically go into primary care… because they weren’t competitive for anything else.

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Anonymous OP 3d

nah, i’m just not letting your lazy stereotypes slide. if you’re gonna be a doctor then you should know this shit, you’re making bs generalizations about your future patients and colleagues. board scores mostly reflect access to resources, not ability. IMGs take the same exams without the tutoring and support U.S. students get. and plenty of them come from world-class schools like oxford, mcgill, or aiims. the “non-standardized education” line is just american gatekeeping.

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Anonymous #4 3d

Again, if you read, I said people from those schools typically do break the mold. Everyone else, not really.

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Anonymous OP 3d

so from the looks of it, you’re going into primary care aren’t ya?

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Anonymous #4 3d

I’m only in my first year. Who knows. But I’ve honored every class so far. So things are looking pretty good right now. If I keep it up I can pretty much do anything as long as I don’t drastically fuck up on Step 1/2.

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Anonymous OP 3d

cool, come back when you start interacting with real patients and foreign doctors instead of memorizing powerpoints and talking shit on yikyak

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Anonymous #4 3d

😂😂😂 are you even in medical school?

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Anonymous OP 3d

flattering that you think i know this all of this shit off the dome for fun

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Anonymous #4 3d

You never know. Premeds love to act like they know what they’re talking about. Regardless, best of luck. I hope your “moral superiority” translates to the classroom because you and I both know the latter is mostly what will get you into a solid residency at the end of the day.

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Anonymous OP 3d

non-profit hospitals provide less free care than for-profit hospitals, they just can’t sell stock to outsiders and get 28 billion dollars worth of tax breaks

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Anonymous #8 3d

no lol

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Anonymous #2 3d

Yes

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Anonymous #6 3d

Oh my God get fucked. You’re a fucking LOSER.

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Anonymous #6 3d

Liberals love to say they don’t make generalizations about race but do it to white men at every fucking opportunity they have.

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Anonymous OP 3d

statistically #6 is correct

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Anonymous OP 3d

lol okay? do you know what medical discrimination is? do you know that women's healthcare is far from the level of men's healthcare? do you know that doctors used to think black women didnt feel as much as white women, leading to them not getting the pain meds they need? and how that still affects care today? or do you just not care lol lol

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Anonymous OP 3d

i'm not even a liberal 😭 idk if you genuinely want to know where my argument is coming from look up medical discrimination if you actually care about that and want to know the generalization is coming from it's literally just statistics

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Anonymous #6 3d

You’re bringing up shit from the Henrietta Lacks days 😭 Anybody who medically discriminates now should be fired and have their medical license revoked

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Anonymous OP 3d

ahh but im afraid its still practice today :) why do black mothers die so much more than white mothers?

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Anonymous OP 3d

OP knows ball about Henrietta Lacks but thinks a country that allowed that to happen has fixed the way it cares for POC medically lol

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Anonymous boariskarloff 3d

literally

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Anonymous OP 2d

Hope u find a new job bruv 💖

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Anonymous OP 2d

You’re bringing up shit from the Henrietta Lacks days” dude she died less than 100 years ago and seeing as HeLa cells are STILL being used without consent or compensation framing that story like it’s from 1432 CE or smth and not a relatively recent example of problems that still exist is really disingenuous

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