So LA is like a city. And the US capital building is like a building owned by the government. So it’s pretty easy to say breaking and entering into one was domestic terrorism. But it’s pretty hard to say the same of many separate protests comprised of different groups of people across the second largest city in the nation. Hope this clarifies it for u <3
I’m not confused as to why you consider Jan 6th to be an act of domestic terrorism, I’m confused as to how you say that and then try to rationalize that the burning of the American flag to wave another one above it, throwing large rocks at and attacking local law enforcement, pouring gasoline over and setting fire to civilian vehicles, and burning and looting local businesses are not acts of terrorism
I’m not a lawyer, some of those probably are domestic terrorism (with the exception of both burning the US flag and flying a foreign flag both of which are protected rights per the 1st amendment) but those are individual actions taken by individual people. These protests are thousands upon thousands of people who are spread all over a massive city and the vast majority of them are not only not being violent but actively discouraging violence around them.
So to me it’s strange that people want to declare the whole series of protests not only violent but terroristic if even one person acts violently. People are always going to show up to protests with bad intentions and it’s an intentional act of reduction to claim the whole point of the protest is moot the second someone in the protesting city does a crime.
I could argue that the vast majority of the people at Jan 6th were not being violent either but you would still consider them terrorists. Same thing here. Im not here to argue about whether or not Jan 6th was an act of terrorism, just saying that you look a little silly and frankly like a hypocrite pointing the finger then turning around and defending this
Earlier you claimed that what was going on in LA is “patriotism.” If these people want to be so patriotic about Mexico, why do they insist on staying here and burning down LA instead of going home and making their country liveable. Protesting is legal, attacking law enforcement, burning civilians vehicles, and looting businesses are not.
Would it make a difference to you if it was though? That’s my whole point, you see burning cars and broken windows and condemn the whole movement. For every one person in LA using the protests to justify whatever crime they wanna do there are 100 people trying to make their voices heard peacefully. But you don’t care to hear them and you never will until 100% of the population of LA acts in a way you deem worthy. And that’s rlly lame dude
If you do a crime you are a criminal but if you’re at a protest acting peacefully I don’t think you should be lumped in with criminals. That goes for Jan 6 too, the terrorism was breaking into a building and threatening congresspeople, not protesting. I think the goal of that day was centered on disrupting the election process which isn’t exactly legal, but even so I wouldn’t say everyone there was a criminal.
I’m not condemning the whole movement. I think it’s pretty lame you’d make that assumption of me. I just think that it needs to be recognized that there is indeed domestic terrorism going on here and that it needs to be stopped immediately, then I do think that those peaceful voices deserve to be heard whether I personally agree or not but i believe that we need to get rid of the people who only want to cause violence and chaos first
I mean hey I don’t know how realistic that is because you can’t know someone’s intentions at a protest until they act on them, but I basically agree with your sentiment. But when you look at a protest with tons of people being peaceful and significantly fewer people being harmful and choose to only talk about the property damage instead of the content of the protests I can’t help but assume that you’re doing it because deep down you’re not trying to hear what they have to say.
I can understand the point you’re making here and it is actually an interesting argument. However i think that the “crime” (I think the right word here is violence) takes away from the protest no matter what someone like me thinks because the argument from both sides of the isle becomes more of a bickering match about the violence going on than the actual argument that was made in the first place.
So why bother contributing to the bickering like you are with this post, yk? Like if I went to the strawberry festival and someone else there fucked your dad, I didn’t fuck your dad. I was there for the strawberries. And now you’re trying to compare me to someone from the much smaller blueberry festival last year where like a lottt of people fucked your dad. Like it’s just not helpful because I can’t control what other people there are doing
The strawberries are important, I went to the festival for the strawberries. And focusing on your dad and the various people fucking him just isn’t fair to the people who are trying to raise strawberry awareness. (This is a crazy analogy but this is kinda my point, large gatherings of people provide cover for violence and crime and there’s no way to organize a protest that will prevent that. So it has to be less important than the actual purpose of the gathering)
Also not for nothing if the cops stopped treating everyone at the protest like a potential criminal and stopped shooting rubber bullets randomly into the crowd and lighting off flashbangs, they would probably be more effective at actually catching people who are being violent, looting, etc.
Now that part I acknowledged like 50 comments back. But violence occurring at the time of a protest doesn’t mean the protest isn’t peaceful. The aim of the protests is overwhelmingly peaceful and most people are abiding by that. And I only argue because saying a protest isn’t peaceful and saying it’s domestic terrorism also means saying it shouldn’t be happening. Doesn’t matter if you don’t think that, that’s what you’re saying by only focusing on the violence and not the protests.
Idk if you’ve ever been to a protest but forming lines around the protest and firing inward is the standard practice and that’s what I mean by treating everyone as a criminal. That’s just not necessary to prevent crime. And if they’re shooting everyone including people without bricks because they’re scared, maybe they should do a job that doesn’t involve protest control. They, like you, shouldn’t see the entire group of people as a monolith. It’s not just intellectually bad, it’s bad policing