Anonymous #1 5w

And it’s illegal when they do it too

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Anonymous #2 5w

They usually do it in the privacy of their own home.

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Anonymous #1 5w

Sorry to rain on your parade that families trying to enjoy the park don’t want to see strung out zombies walking around and living there, but that’s just a general truth wherever you go in the world. Even if you act like I’m insane for it.

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Being poor is when doing drugs in public and endangering people in public spaces

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Anonymous OP 5w

Maybe they should vote for policies that will keep people from being homeless in the first place

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Anonymous #7 5w

Aren’t there still some who refuse help? Maybe it’s just overstated but I assume at least some do. Idk what to do about that. We can’t force them to do anything even if it’s in their best interest

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Anonymous #8 5w

I mean I’m sure there are some people who refuse help but I wouldn’t say it’s a majority. And we could definitely have way better systems in place to be helping homeless people. Any kind of help is better than arresting people for existing when they have nowhere else to go.

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Anonymous #7 5w

Definitely, I agree with that. I think people overstate how many people actually refuse help, but I’m sure the problem exists

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Anonymous #4 5w

Nothing is ever your own fault in liberals eyes I know. But that’s not going to convince a judge.

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Anonymous #5 5w

They reject that because drugs are better. Yet forcing them into rehab is “unethical”

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Anonymous #2 5w

They happen to be poor yes, but why should I give a shit if they aren’t doing this in public view? That’s literally the issue.

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Anonymous #6 5w

Nah you need to kick the speed. No amount of laws will give someone discipline.

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Anonymous #8 5w

Many of them do. Many of these people are quite unaware of the actual reality of this.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Many of them avoid seeking help because restarting your whole life is scary and rough. Losing everything was hard for these people, and now they have to do it again if they escape this life. It's not an easy choice for many to make, and for some it's not always possible. Many of our public institutions that are supposed to be equipped to help these people are understaffed and underfunded.

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

That doesn’t mean it’s okay to terrorize the public with your antics? Enabling drug addiction isn’t a good look. And the poor staff that have to deal with these people aren’t to be blamed, drug users preferring to be strung out in public all day doesn’t mean responsibility is no longer a thing.

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

Yeah I propose forced rehab or bring back asylums where they can stay long term.

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Anonymous OP 5w

No one, not even me, said it was "okay" to let drug addicts do such things, you're the only one insinuating that with your reply. Being concerned about the funding our public institutions lack isn't "enabling drug addiction."

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

It doesn’t take away their responsibility as individuals. Like again you could hand the world to these types (not every drug program everywhere is underfunded to hell) and it all comes down to their individual accountability. Yes I’ve seen people reject things the average American can’t get (rent help, healthcare, other aid) because they want drugs more. At that point? You’re saying fuck you to Americans that contribute to society and you need to get your shit together or sit incarcerated.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I can understand rehab but not asylums. If you look at the mental health programs Kennedy tried to institute in the 60's, many times those patients would end up homeless again due to ineffective treatments or simply not having anywhere to go. Homelessness isn't just solved by getting clean, there is more that goes into it.

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

Well we need something for people who are just. Not in this reality, probably from advanced drug usage. I can agree jail is not preferred but neither is the average hospital and letting them loose on the streets is straight up dangerous for everyone

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Anonymous OP 5w

I didn't say they don't have responsibility either, again, you're the only one insinuating this. Please don't put words in my mouth. Making sure people who struggle have well-funded and reliable resources to help them lead better lives where they are in a position to contribute to society helps everyone. Just because some people reject help doesn't mean a majority of them do and it doesn't mean we should refuse to help them because of some bad actors.

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

I don’t mean to put words in your mouth but honestly I am tired of all this reasoning. Like okay yes we know why they resist rehab but like um that literally doesn’t matter lol kids hate school and going to the dentist what else is new. Sometimes you have to do things you don’t like. I would never want them refused help, but receive consequences for doing so.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I don't think people should be punished for refusing help to fix their crappy lives. That's their decision and as long as they aren't hurting others they can do whatever.

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Anonymous OP 5w

"For people who are just"?

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Anonymous OP 5w

I'm assuming the person in this instance is an adult eligible to receive support but otherwise chooses not to. This is not a child refusing to go to the dentist or school, this is a person who is scared to give up the unfortunately stable place they fell into to *possibly* find a better one. If they are not bothering anyone and not mooching off the system, I don't understand why they should be punished if they decide to refuse help.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I'm sorry to say but if you think you deserve something for being a law-abiding citizen then you've got your head in the clouds. Being a good person shouldn't be contingent on how much support you get if it's true feelings of goodwill to others.

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Anonymous OP 5w

How many homeless people do you think choose to be homeless?

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

I literally described why they are an issue. So you were ignoring me just to virtue signal.

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

There’s an accidental period there. We need something for people who aren’t living in this reality due to drugs and yes they are commonly found in tent communities. Yes they can be dangerous or at best an uncomfortable nuisance to the public, you don’t need to put your hands on someone to do that.

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

I think I’m missing something. Wdym by “restarting your life”? Why is that necessary?

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Anonymous #8 5w

Losing your home is very depressing for people, and as a result homeless people will often seek community with other homeless people, and the individual develops new habits in their routine as a result of engaging with these peers and adapting to their community, often including drug use. This new lifestyle can be very difficult to break for individuals, especially when coupled with drug use.

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

They can’t join those people in some sort of group therapy/rehab?

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Anonymous #8 5w

Essentially it's difficult to break their new habits that hinder them adapting to a typical lifestyle. Couple that with the fact that many have untreated mental health issues and substance abuse disorders.

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Anonymous #8 5w

That is a part of accessing a typical lifestyle, but some of them lack the necessary education to access those facilities, and some feel that they don't have the necessary resources to get the help they need.

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

By "necessary education" I mean that they may not know where to go when seeking help.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I'm not ignoring you, I interpreted your comment to mean that you want to punish homeless people that refuse to seek help. I'm saying that I disagree, and that I think people who choose that lifestyle who aren't otherwise nuisances or exploit the system shouldn't be punished because some homesless people choose to exploit the system without improving themselves. Why should they be punished?

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Anonymous yellow_socks67 5w

I see, so it’s an outreach issue?

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Anonymous #8 5w

It's part of the issue. There is a greater issue of community resources being underfunded and understaffed.

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