Anonymous #1 1w

This seriously isn’t about trump. People are justifying fraud by saying somebody else is doing it.

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Anonymous #3 1w

No it's not

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Anonymous #2 1w

small correction: didn’t realize there were already convictions. people convicted of fraud did fraud and it’s not “alleged”. that said, if it’s been on the radar and investigated since 2022 that doesn’t really make me think there’s an ongoing fraud problem - sounds like officials have had an eye on it and are addressing it

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Anonymous OP 1w

No, it’s pointing out that the republicans only care about fraud when they can use it to target ethnicities they don’t like. When it’s fraud committed by Trump supporters or rich white people, Trump pardons them. As an extreme example, if the president pardoned a bunch of murderers who were white, but when a Jamaican murdered someone he wanted to deport all Jamaicans, it’s right to point out the hypocrisy and disproportionate response.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Peep the image and lmk if you want the full link

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Anonymous #3 1w

you should try reading and understanding the methodology of studies you quote blindly

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Anonymous #2 1w

I have

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Anonymous #3 1w

Obviously not

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Anonymous #4 1w

How so?

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Anonymous #3 1w

Explain the clustering analysis

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Anonymous #3 1w

I GUARANTEE the link you are about to send here is the pop science article the screenshot is from and not the study it is reporting on. I spent like an hour trying to track down that study when it came out and I read it and it’s garbage.

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Anonymous #3 1w

conservatives find one study that they can misinterpret to make themselves look good and that's the only thing they cite for like 5 years

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Anonymous #3 1w

“Group A only believes the earth is round, but group B has people who think the earth is flat AND people who think the earth is a cube! This means group B is better.” I also really want to see the methodology and questions asked here because the results are highly dependent upon that.

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Anonymous #1 1w

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/

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Anonymous #2 1w

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/

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Anonymous #3 1w

Damn. Hold up that didn’t work

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Anonymous #3 1w

Damn it didn’t work

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Anonymous #2 1w

If you read the supplementary material the questions are like "do you think everyone should have equal rights?" Like yeah no shit democrats are going to have more agreement than republicans

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Anonymous #3 1w

They don’t work in replies, we will just have to type it in manually

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Anonymous #1 1w

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665?__cf_chl_tk=R3_EhzN9n6eX8uUYXHa03QCXnojPAByrifNI4lrwwP0-1767140647-1.0.1.1-pMPt.yA6B8fzttmakO1YpgTrncB3F19dwvEKn3KOzOE

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Anonymous #3 1w

This should work^

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Anonymous #4 1w

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665?__cf_chl_tk=R3_EhzN9n6eX8uUYXHa03QCXnojPAByrifNI4lrwwP0-1767140647-1.0.1.1-pMPt.yA6B8fzttmakO1YpgTrncB3F19dwvEKn3KOzOE

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Anonymous #1 1w

This is exactly what's happening.

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Anonymous OP 1w

No they’re not. They’re pointing out the hypocrisy of saying this is bad because it’s a crime but then voting for a guy who has a criminal record and does this stuff

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Anonymous #4 1w

Exactly. Those are all the big political topics and all dems have exactly one opinion on each and then look at how the republicans thought. Greater diversity of thought

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Anonymous #3 1w

Having diversity of thought on questions like "should everyone have equal rights?" is not the own you think it is

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Anonymous #4 1w

Where does it say that?

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Anonymous #3 1w

that’s not “open mindedness”, that’s at best an incoherent platform

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Anonymous #3 1w

Question 5

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Anonymous #4 1w

It didn’t say that. You are taking it to ask a different question about if ppl have equal rights when it’s asking about marriage. You can’t take what it says and then twist it to be a diff question. And even then you proved the entire survey correct

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Anonymous #3 1w

anyway, there are many problems with the methodology. One of them is that they force people to self report as democratic or republican. and lowkey while the left has a pretty broad spread of positions, only a small percent of the left will actively identify as “democrats” first.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Allowing any two consenting adults to get married is equal rights moron

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Anonymous #3 1w

In addition, the scope of the questions doesn’t really cover where the left differs ideologically. they’re pretty broad left/right questions. the “diversity” you’re seeing on the right is partly that a lot of folks who vote Republican actually prefer certain left ideas (like rights for people). Because the alternatives are Evil.

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Anonymous #2 1w

#2, That is the first valid point of this convo

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Anonymous #4 1w

Says the liberals. This is why you have proved it. Bc not all conservatives believe that but some do while all liberals believe it is their right

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Anonymous #3 1w

What the fuck are you even talking about?

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Anonymous #4 1w

Liberals all think that gays all have the right to get married. Republicans have mixed opinions on that. Therefore that shows republicans have more diversity of thought. Another way you could put it, is that liberals are more unified in their beliefs

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yes which is demonstrating my point that diversity of thought is not always a good thing

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Anonymous #4 1w

Correct. And being unified in thought is not always a good thing too. There’s a balance to in everything. Noice one!

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Anonymous #3 1w

but what if the questions were things like: - should the US support Israel or Palestine? - should public college be free? - should firearms be banned in the US? - should housing be considered a fundamental human right? the questions in the first place are skewed in a way where they will split republicans but not democrats

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Anonymous #3 1w

you literally can’t get a good read on “diversity of thought” as a whole with an 8 item questionnaire

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Anonymous #3 1w

If you actually believe that what's the point of the study you posted (which you have still yet to explain)?

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Anonymous #3 1w

it’s just a bad study on so many axes. and it’s been interpreted badly on top of that

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