Yo, is this that guy that got dumped by the girl with the lazy eye?

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This is due to ppl voting for less social programs tho tbh. I think such programs and communities should exist but we shouldn’t expect it for free although we can appreciate those who do free work. We should use our tax dollars for things like that to better help and improve our communities

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Anonymous #3 6w

Government programs do not build communities and inherently have perverse incentives as they are still driven by a paycheck and financial report. It’s a folly to think we can establish social programs to reconnect with our neighbors. What we need is genuine time interacting with each other and working towards a common goal. Money can’t buy that.

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so you think women shouldn’t have had to be paid for their work? 🤔

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Anonymous #1 6w

Why does being paid to work a social program make it perverse?

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Anonymous #4 6w

Doesn’t matter if it is women or men. I think in the standard should have stayed that when people couple up, one person becomes the primary earner and the other utilizes their time towards building a better home and community around them.

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Anonymous #3 6w

Because then the work that the social programs is incentivized to do are the ones that the largest tax payers want to see. It’s still acting on behalf of the haves whether it’s obvious or not. Flowing money through the government doesn’t change that. Helping your elderly neighbor with her garden, for example, might be just what your community actually needs. Or maybe it’s someone providing trustworthy child care while a mom has to deal with the loss of a family member. Every community’s…

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Anonymous #1 6w

why should one person in a couple have to sacrifice their career just because they want to be together?? your world view is messed up bro

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Anonymous #1 6w

and anyway, you said women getting paid for the work they were ALREADY doing had “unfortunate social and economic consequences”. you made it about women, which is why I was talking about women. Don’t try to backtrack and say you meant men or women.

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Anonymous #1 6w

Needs are incredibly unique, and government programs cannot cater to these specifics. They can only offer blanket services that don’t actually meet people where they are. The most valuable thing we have is our time, and right now the expectation is for all of us to spend 40 hours/week of it outside of our communities. Third spaces died out because no one has the time and energy to create and maintain them anymore.

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Anonymous #4 6w

I’m not backtracking anything. That was just the social change at the time. And no, I think our current society’s norms are quite messed up and inhuman.

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Anonymous #1 6w

your whole argument relies on the idea that women weren’t already working before. They were working, they just weren’t paid. I think everyone should get paid for the work they do, and that women getting paid for work they were already doing is not a bad thing in any way. Saying one person in every couple should stay home is inhumane, and would lead to many women (and men, but we know w the patriarchy it would most likely be women) being stuck at home again even if it’s against their wishes.

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Anonymous #4 6w

also, it’s unrealistic in this economy anyway. It’s such a privileged take to say families should just live off of one income and use their free time to volunteer because many people can’t afford to do that.

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Anonymous #4 6w

What work are you identifying that women were already doing and were unpaid for? And yeah, that’s exactly my point. Our economy has grown to meet the two income standard and now single people are left worse off and essentially everyone has to have income. I’m saying it would have been better if when careers were opened up to women more broadly, there should have been a recognition of the importance of a single income standard and an agreement to socially maintain that, allowing either person.

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Anonymous #7 6w

Oh noooo women are leaving relationships they aren’t happy in oh nooooo

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Anonymous #9 6w

you can read a scanned copy for free via the internet archive (you just need an account, which is easy to sign up for): https://archive.org/details/sexraceclasspers0000jame/page/3/mode/1up

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Anonymous #7 6w

who cares???? like genuinely??? if people are not happy in a relationship then they should leave. would you rather women stay in unhappy/unhealthy relationships out of obligation??

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Anonymous #7 6w

if you think it’s possible for a woman to be “too” independent then you aren’t cut out to exist in a society

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Anonymous #3 6w

Those programs are great. I definitely support that, don’t get me wrong, but they are a far cry from the social networks I think we need in order to thrive. We can’t expect the giant of government to organize grains of sand.

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Anonymous #8 6w

That’s what the divorce lawyer like to hear too. The other day I saw a sign. Divorce lawyer for $150!!!

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Anonymous #7 5w

What the fuck are you talking about lmao

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