Anonymous OP 12w

I don’t get it. Why would I support people who don’t support me?

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Anonymous OP 12w

Because to them, ‘feminism’ is not separate to the actions of feminists, it is defined by the actions of feminists. So when the only or the vast majority of the interactions they’ve had with feminists are negative ones, those actions ARE the movement to them.

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Anonymous #1 12w

this is the same argument women used to oppose men's mental health month and it wasn't valid then so its not valid now. hope this helps

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Anonymous #1 12w

Do you truly believe that all feminists hate you? You should support them because women are still facing gender based discrimination and violence. Feminism is primarily focused on women (hence the name) but that doesn’t mean we don’t advocate for things like men’s mental health as well. For example men not being told to express emotion is a harmful gender stereotype which a lot of feminists want to fight against.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Also, because a lot of people view women’s rights as something that is already won and doesn’t need to be further advocated for. There is literally no legal right in this country that men have that women do not also have. If you want to talk about gender rolls, or societal behaviors, that’s a different story, but when you talk about women’s rights.. in most people’s eyes, you already have all of your rights.

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Anonymous #2 12w

Women in many states still do not have the legal right to make medical decisions about their own body. But yes there is a long way to go with societal behaviors and gender roles. Also we can still advocate for women’s rights in other parts of the world, even if we already have those rights here. Feminism is a global issue, it’s not just restricted to the US.

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Anonymous OP 12w

And most people who don’t identify as feminists still support women’s rights both domestically and abroad.

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Anonymous #2 12w

We have a woman who is completely brain dead who was forced to incubate a her child while dead. Do you see that as equal rights?

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Anonymous OP 12w

I dont know what kind of bubble people live in where they conflate hating men with feminism. Feminism comes in so many forms, some I agree with and some I don’t, but all of them hope to advance women’s rights. That is the core tenant of feminism. My fellow guys need to read a book or something

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Anonymous #10 12w

That’s the thing, I agree with the books, but not the media. If that makes sense?

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Anonymous #9 12w

Media intends to rile people up and stir controversy for the sake of engagement. Never a good depiction of a movement

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Anonymous #10 12w

100%, that’s why like, I would mentally sure, say i’m a feminist? Idk, I agree with all the BOOK based stuff. But the word now has a negative connotation, so I just have my beliefs without a title, if that makes sense?

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Anonymous #9 12w

at the end of the day mean you don’t need to go around calling yourself a feminist. If someone asked me I would say yes, though I’ve never really been faced with this question. And just to be honest guys who go around calling themselves feminists are probably posturing anyways. Labels are meaningless without accompanying actions

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Anonymous #10 12w

I don’t think i’d ever prance around and say it tbh, but Ig it wouldn’t hurt to say yeah if I was asked straight on. 🤔

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Anonymous #9 12w

At the same time I think it’s kind of a weird question to ask

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Anonymous #10 12w

yeah, idk, never been asked faced to face

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Anonymous #9 12w

I dont really ever label any parts of my ideology unless asked. It feels really reductive

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Anonymous #10 12w

Also, it being reductive, allows for assumptions and jumping to conclusions on their view of that certain label.

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Anonymous strawberry_hair 12w

“Forced to incubate her child while dead” Was she planning on getting an abortion prior to her coma? Or did she intend to carry it to term?

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Anonymous #2 12w

Does it matter if she was planning to get an abortion? She was never asked this decision. A braindead woman is also not an ideal place to grow a fetus. They are not doing this in the interest of the mother or the child. They are doing it as a sick, nonconsensual human science experiment.

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Anonymous #2 12w

You are having an excuse for a brain dead woman incubating a fetus. Her family and husband wanted her to be taken off. They have taken it out as her body was starting to ROT. It’s 2 pounds and fighting for its life in the NICU.

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Anonymous OP 12w

It definitely does matter, because if she wanted to carry the baby to term, who are you to decide that actually it needs to die?

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Anonymous strawberry_hair 12w

The family explicitly stated that they wanted to try to save the baby. They kept her on life support long enough to try to give the baby a chance, and took it out as early as was reasonably viable.

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Anonymous #2 12w

If she wanted to carry the baby to term that doesn’t matter. She’s dead. Her body was being kept alive by IV’s and pumped full of hormones. Her family, next of kin her husband who she would’ve had the child with? He has been on the record saying many times that he wanted off of the hormones.

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Anonymous #2 12w

The family NEVER stated that. They were required by law to keep her “alive” “She previously told WXIA that the family was required to keep Smith alive under the state’s near-total abortion ban, known as the LIFE Act. Smith, whose family celebrated her 31st birthday Sunday, has been hospitalized since February after she initially sought treatment for severe headaches, her family has said.”

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