Anonymous #3 1w

Doing shit to actually change anything than genuinely they can f off

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Anonymous #3 1w

And this is why we are struggling to push back against conservative politics people. There is just as much hate in liberal groups as there are in conservative ones, just directed in different directions. We can’t be so caught up in politics that we can’t forgive and support people who choose to change their perspective.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Not being able to immediately forgive someone for voting for someone who hates lgbtq people isn’t the same as hating someone for being lgbtq (etc)

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Anonymous #6 1w

That being said, I don’t blame the GF’s friends for making distance. I don’t blame anybody for not trusting newcomers. I also recognize the kid’s got a fuck ton of growing to do before he realizes why he ain’t entitled to their immediate forgiveness/acceptance. The internet is internetting right now, though. Some of yall are just ripping into the guy. It’s doing some inadvertent damage to the cause.

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Anonymous #6 1w

One hundo percent

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Anonymous #3 1w

It’s not just you. As someone who used to be conservative, I call this phenomenon “growing pains.” When you first wake up, you have good intentions & you think people will see that first. But you’re obviously still ignorant to a lot of the harm caused, so you say/do stupid shit that people get mad at. You’re treated as if you’re no different than what you were before, and tbh, it SUCKS. You want community and understanding, but you only get backlash from both sides.

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Anonymous #6 1w

Like you haven’t exactly had the time to learn WHY you’re being met with such anger from liberals or minorities when you first wake up, so all of it just feels unfair in the moment. Those of us who truly wanted to change pushed through long enough to learn, though. And we finally shut up about how we were being treated, because we actually learned what actions/words were harmful and why.

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Anonymous #6 1w

That’s such an entity bs excuse, cause how much time realistically do you think it takes for someone to change viewpoints? There is no timeframe rather it’s up to the person on how they feel about the subject.

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Anonymous #2 1w

You 0 idea what bros beliefs are or what’s in his heart, hop off your high horse.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Y’all’s morals are completely out of check, if bro truly changed who are you to 1 discredit that and 2 decide if he’s worthy or not. He’s literally on y’all’s side

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Anonymous #6 1w

I’m sure bros done his research and built an opinion off of them, he wouldn’t make such a bold statement after reading one article.

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Anonymous #4 1w

Exactly.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Literally where are you seeing this 💀

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Anonymous #5 1w

It’s great he’s on our side. And I welcome him. That doesn’t mean I can forgive him any more than anyone else who voted to endanger people I love. They are my priority, not him. I’m not going out of my way to be mean to anyone MAGA or otherwise. That doesn’t mean I have to be comfortable around someone like that either, especially if they aren’t actually doing anything to help fix the situation they caused

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Anonymous #5 1w

Yeah, it’s called my opinion. Obviously, I haven’t read bro’s fucking brain.

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Anonymous #5 1w

What do you think am I excusing? Idk how much time it takes for everyone. But I know for me that I decided I wanted to be a better person in an instant. Learning how to do that is the part that took time.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Entitled

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Anonymous #2 1w

Then don’t make up reason for why he’s wanting to change like you have, hop off

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Anonymous #3 1w

That they caused? Hop off, just saying yall givin him a lot more hate than necessary. And not to pull the religious morality card but yall seem to hold onto hate so much more than wanting to forgive and love. There’s so much hate on the left’s side and it’s pointed at every direction including yourselfs. Your guys don’t hold the ability to stand together strong because yalls petty prejudices

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Anonymous #5 1w

I dont hate anyone. But hating and not wanting to be around someone who was willing to harm your friends are two different stories. And again why does he get forgiveness when he’s not actually doing anything to earn it

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Anonymous #5 1w

I’m not making anything up, it’s called an inference, I used context clues to form my OPINION. Are you the OP from the other post? bc you’re running defense for that dipshit wayyy to hard not to be lmao

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Anonymous #5 1w

Bruh.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yeah I doubt bros actually going out of his way to physically harm someone and maybe a change of heart and repentance? The lord doesn’t require good works to be forgiven so why should you, you better Jesus?

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Anonymous #5 1w

I know he’s not going out of his way to physically harm someone. But he supported leadership in that does. It’s great that the lord is all forgiving but I am no great god. I’m a human whose friends are in real danger because of him and people like him. Even if I forgive him I would not want to be around him until he is actively working to make things better

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Anonymous #2 1w

Then state it’s an inference from the beginning or else you just look intellectually dishonest. And no I just have half decent morals and recognize when someone is getting unnecessarily bashed in the wrong sense.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Not trying to fight but I really want to discuss this in good faith. At what point does a former MAGAt deserve forgiveness / at what point is it earned?

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Anonymous #3 1w

And he’s changed and willing to do things to protect them now? If he changed viewpoints I’m sure he’s willing to vote the other way. How is that not him working to make things better? And not to call out someone’s morals but please be better

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Anonymous #5 1w

Look buddy, just bc you aren’t smart enough to recognize inferences, doesn’t mean I need to warn you before I make one so you can catch up with the rest of the class. People like you are why we have warning labels on everything.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I believe they deserve forgiveness as soon as they change politics! IF they take active steps to undo the harm they’ve done and don’t get at people for still feeling their feelings. That does not mean I can personally forgive them enough to be around them. To many people I love have been actively put in harms way by the Trump administration for me to immediately get over everything

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Anonymous #3 1w

One of my friends is a former Maga person, a radical too. But they gave time and space for everyone who was uncomfortable with them, they don’t just speak in favor of leftist causes, they fight for them, they are super active politically. They have clearly shown me through actions and words they understand exactly why their beliefs were a problem. the guy described in the OP doesn’t seem to be doing any of that

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Anonymous #2 1w

Leave it you to make a petty half shot when they feel a little hurt. You were being intellectually dishonest and you it, just learn to be better. People like you is why we have so much hate in this country because they can’t handle their feelings and don’t understand how to form a proper argument. Go back to class.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Oh sorry I forgot to warn you before I made that joke about you.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Dawg stop swinging 💀💀 Your hearts in the right place but damn this hostility is doing us no favors.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I’ve had my fun, but I’m done now.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I’m just calling out the factual evidence, but inferring that I’m slow or something when they feel backed into a corner and can’t get themselves out of it is spreading more hostility than anything and honestly embarrassing.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yeah I can see that. I’m pretty much in the same place. Would you say that someone who has changed their mind deserves more grace/patience than one who hasn’t, though? Like does just knowing that they’ve claimed to have changed their views make you less inclined to see them as an active threat, even if you’re not ready to trust them fully? I think I have more patience with new converts than most cause I’ve lived it. Was wondering what it’s like for someone who’s never been force-fed red koolaid

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Anonymous #2 1w

That doesn’t even deserve a proper response just learn to be better.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I mean yeah ofc I’m gonna be way more chill with someone who’s changed than an active republican.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Bruh bffr I wasn’t backed into any corner, I’m just not taking this shit super seriously and letting my feelings get hurt like you seem to be doing. This was not the battle of the brains you think it was. Only one of us was taking this seriously. You need to get your panties out of your ass dude. Peace

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Anonymous #2 1w

Wasn’t a battle of anything be fr just learn to be better

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Anonymous #3 1w

Gotcha. Thank you for the explanation.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Hey man, I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. People are bashing the guy too hard, the left is unnecessarily vitriolic, and there is no way for any of us to know how much he’s truly changed. Maybe he deserves more grace than what he’s getting, but at the same time, it’s unfair to expect the benefit of the doubt. Lots of us have had ppl masquerade as allies just to use us. Also, people in general aren’t going to hear you out if come off as combative/defensive.

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Anonymous #6 1w

Yk what, very fair. You made some good points.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Males

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Anonymous #7 1w

I’ll upvote to that

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