Anonymous #1 19h

see how you're proving my point? if i'm a woman it's fuck u, but if i'm a man u just don't agree and are a lot more respectful. sounds like misogyny to me

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Anonymous #3 17h

u are clearly the ignorant one if u think growing up in a patriarchy with misogynistic culture, traditions, history, and more won't affect u

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Anonymous #2 17h

i agree. js seems like thinly veiled "not all men!" argument

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Anonymous OP 15h

No, I am disagreeing with you. It is not a “not all men” argument, it’s not saying most or even all men are misogynistic, it’s saying that acting like they are going to be terrible people because they are men does more harm than good, because they take that as “you are not expected to be better than this,” and they aren’t expected to improve. You can be wary of them AND hold higher expectations for them

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Anonymous #2 15h

hard disagree that it does more harm than good. encourages women to be safe and avoid relationship w men that exploit them and encourages men to prove that they are different

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Anonymous OP 15h

I put up with so much shit from men before i stopped saying all men suck. It may not be something I was aware of, but it did encourage me to expect less from them. I changed my mindset and now have a boyfriend who actually respects me and other women. I’m not all women of course, but my situation has led me to this belief

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Anonymous #2 15h

i think that's an entirely different issue if u think men are misogynistic but still pursue relationships w them. saying all men are misogynistic doesn't mean pick the lesser of the evils and lower ur standards

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Anonymous OP 15h

relationships w men are completely optional

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Anonymous OP 15h

and they are going to be misogynistic not bc they are men, but bc they were raised to be men

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Anonymous OP 15h

I think everyone can be misogynistic, and because I enjoy romantic relationships and am attracted to men, I pursue romantic relationships with men. I used to think that men couldnt be better than at least semi-misogynistic, and settled because I was immature. I stopped settling when I realized men could unlearn misogyny and started expecting them to, and now I’m very happy. You don’t have to do any of that or date men, I don’t care. I’m just trying to explain OOP’s point.

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Anonymous #2 15h

this quite literally is a not all men argument. how many men actually do this work? very few and even fewer will actually stand up for women in front of their friends or other men

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Anonymous OP 15h

So if we truly lived in a culture that is misogynistic then how come women get an education run for political offices, and have the right to vote. By the way you do not have to mention traditions when you said culture. Doesn’t affect me? Are you forced to sign into the draft?

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Anonymous #3 15h

do u think women being disproportionately raped and the ongoing femicide isn't misogyny? or domestic abuse? or being paid less? or being forced to carry pregnancies? or child marriages? or human trafficking? we are allowed to run for political office but still don't have equal representation. the draft doesn't include women bc it was created before women were allowed in the military

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Anonymous OP 15h

and my point is that it does affect u, hence why every man (and woman) is misogynistic unless they intentionally combat this

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