Anonymous #3 1d

Because we have been disproportionately hated/persecuted more than any other group in history. It’s a survival thing. Look up the percentage of Jews that have been hate-crimed

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Anonymous OP 1d

So have black people but they don’t have their own country

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Anonymous OP 1d

SPECIFICALLY African Americans

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Anonymous #3 1d

I literally said we have been DISPROPORTIONALLY HATED. NO OTHER GROUP HAS EXPERIENCED WHAT WE’VE EXPERIENCED

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Anonymous OP 1d

Black people literally have. Wtf are you talking about. We aren’t the most oppressed minority in history. Sorry to break it to you.

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Anonymous #3 1d

we aren’t the only ones. china is an ethnostate, japan is an ethnostate, half the middle eastern countries are ethnostates, north korea is an ethnostate, orania is an ethnostate in south africa. armenia, finland, germany are other examples of ethnostates.

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Anonymous #4 1d

And all should be destroyed

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Anonymous OP 1d

We didn’t experience chattel slavery did we?

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Anonymous #5 1d

Racist to who?

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Anonymous OP 1d

Palestinians

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Anonymous #3 1d

we experienced multiple forms of slavery historically, including chattel slavery. half the world is filled with ethnostates. you asked why we’re the only ones who “deserve” our own state. we never said we deserve our own state, but there is a reason it’s crucial to our survival to have a safe land that we too can call our own, just like a myriad of other countries have. you’re changing your original point, by the way, after having it pointed out to you that israel is not the only existing

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Anonymous #4 1d

ethnostate in the world.

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Anonymous #3 1d

also, black people have black dominant countries but no true black ethnostates exist.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Why do we need a Jewish dominant country to be safe? And Jews were not enslaved during the trans Atlantic slave trade chattel system. If you could show me a reliable source that says otherwise that would be greatly appreciated

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Anonymous #3 1d

you asked if we experienced chattel slavery, not if we experienced it during the trans atlantic slave trade chattel system. stop trying to change around your points and stick to the original points. also, i think history speaks for itself as to why we need a jewish dominant country/state.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Okay then show me a reliable source that says we went through chattel slavery. The Torah doesn’t count

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Anonymous OP 1d

This is so incredibly dismissive to all other groups that have been genocided and targeted in the world. The Native Americans. African Americans where millions are on the bottom of the ocean due to the transatlantic slave trade. Then hundreds of years of chattel slavery. America tried to send them back to Africa thru a colonial project called Liberia. Guess what, it was still colonialism. African Americans deserved full humanity in the place they were already living. Not to be shipped off

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Anonymous #5 1d

They don’t actually care about other minorities and it’s fucking disgusting. WE are the only ones who struggle. WE are the ones who struggle the most. Nobody can understand even though many other minorities have went thought the same exact shit. It’s absolutely delusional. And disgusting thinking. Atp I think they’re just racist and trying to launder their fascism though the struggles out people went through. Fucking gross

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Anonymous #3 1d

Our*

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Anonymous #3 1d

i can send over sources if you’d like to pay to read them. most require payment but this one is free and talks about the roman empire and enslavement of the regions it conquered. https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/978-3-031-13260-5_5.pdf?pdf=inline%20link

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Anonymous #3 1d

https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/ideological-origins-of-chattel-slavery-british-world another source.

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Anonymous #4 1d

one could even argue that jews experienced chattel slave during the holocaust, although we were not sold or traded, we were treated as property and resources that could be used until death.

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Anonymous #6 1d

Countries get dismantled all the time. Study history! Don’t give into nationalism, partition and segregation

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Anonymous #6 1d

And I think you can also understand how after the most industrial genocide in human history wiped out 2/3 of world Jewry the idea that Jews should be able to govern and defend themselves became popular both with Jews and non Jews

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Anonymous #6 1d

It should not have come at the expense of anyone else but that is what happened and international norms were different in the mid 20th century. So now we must think of the best way to move forward for the people who were born on that land in a way that honors their respective identities

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Anonymous #5 1d

Countries actually don’t get dismantled all the time lol. Dismantling a regime is not the same as dismantling a country. Germany still exists. South Africa still exists. And imposing a solution that both peoples have no interest in is asking for trouble

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Anonymous #6 1d

people are downvoting you as if you’re not being reasonable and logical.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I think people just look to see what “side” people are on and don’t bother to read the content. I hate the idea of “pro Palestine” or “pro Israel.” I’m pro humanity

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Anonymous #6 1d

it’s honestly not that hard to comprehend people giving a shit about others. we don’t need to “pick a side” in order to show kindness, compassion, and understanding.

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Anonymous #3 1d

Black is a race not an ethnicity. There are multiple ethnicities within the race. I don’t understand this line of argument here. This borderlines on racism equating all black people into one lump culture.

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Anonymous #3 20h

Black Americans are Americans their country is America 🇺🇸 They did have a separate country (Liberia) and they wanted to stay here

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Anonymous #3 19h

I mean destroying existing country’s is just not gonna happen. Regardless under the conditions which Israel was established, it is an official country and will always be. But we need to hold the gov accountable.

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Anonymous #5 19h

Hypothetically if Israel was dismantled and given back to Palestinians, do you think the gov would be a democracy?? Right now it’s not. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.

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Anonymous #9 19h

What do you mean by “destroy” bc if you mean dismantle, that happens all the time. Countries, empires and constitutions fall all the time

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Anonymous #9 19h

Decolonization is very much possible

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Anonymous #9 19h

Why wouldn’t it?? Do you think they’re like lawless savages or something? Apartheid and genocide is not democracy

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Anonymous #5 19h

They do the think they are lawless savages. That’s literally their hole shtick

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Anonymous #7 19h

Never said it was an ethnicity. But it’s another group of people who’ve been though so much shit just like Jews.

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