Anonymous #2 11w

Remember that time Biden had a colonoscopy so Kamala was president for 80 minutes and she did all the same things Trump is doing? No? Oh right that’s because she DIDN’T! She just acted like a normal ass cool and collected president and nothing went wrong. Most peaceful 80 minutes of my life. Coulda had that for four years but nOoOoOo

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Anonymous #3 11w

I don’t think she would’ve been normal and i do think she would have done bad things but not like this

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Anonymous #2 11w

Like what lower inflation, raise minimum wage, fix our broken healthcare system?

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Anonymous #7 11w

at the same time though, i don’t necessarily blame third party voters for all of it. america as a whole is sliding to the right, at a societal and cultural level. i find myself having contempt for everyone really. for the republicans for their scapegoating and targeting of trans people, for democrats for doing so little to defend us, for third party voters for not seeing the value in harm reduction. i’ve grown so, so bitter that at this point, everyone’s a snake until proven otherwise.

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Anonymous #8 11w

Only problem is, we have to choose one of those 2 evils to change it

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Anonymous greenbass 11w

I don’t feel sympathy for people who knowingly chose the wrong answer in the trolley problem because they weren’t willing to get their hands dirty. They think that preserving their moral superiority is more important than the lives of bipoc, queer people, disabled people, poor people, etc etc etc

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Anonymous #12 11w

maybe voting being a genocidal trolly problem is more indicitive of the neo liberal “democracy” we live in rather than maybe some of its voters. i think ur anger may be misdirected

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Yeah she would have been a lot easier to push to support ending the genocide in Palestine. But now it feels like nobody is talking about Palestine because we have to focus on our own rights being stripped away more and more by the day

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Anonymous greenbass 11w

“Hehehe I’m better than you because I refused to touch the lever at all (which ultimately resulted in substantially worse conditions for everyone on earth BUT I can still claim to be an innocent bystander when in actuality I knew the problem the entire time and just chose to not do anything about it)”

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Anonymous #13 11w

Exactly like we’ve been saying since before the election. It’s a LOT harder to fight for others when we’re having to spend all of that time and effort keeping ourselves safe.

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Anonymous #11 11w

Yeah it’s really not realistic to expect a candidate to perfectly align with you on every issue. We as voters have different opinions even if we generally support the same candidates

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Anonymous greenbass 11w

Two things can be true homie. The state of our democracy is fucked, yes, and third party voters also actively and knowingly contributed to the current regime taking power.

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Anonymous #12 11w

i literally did vote for kamala but okie, what im trying to say is that ur anger is guided towards the wrong people. trump wasnt caused by some voters who voted independent in 2024, he was caused by decades of neoliberalism and capitalism

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Anonymous #12 11w

Yeah it’s not even like we are sacrificing Palestinians because conditions for them would be significantly better with Harris I believe, and we could have pushed her to do better

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Anonymous #14 11w

Biden should have dropped out much earlier so we could have had a primary. Kamala’s campaign did a fantastic job given the short period of time they had, but nonetheless doomed before they began. Dems also keep allowing the pendulum to swing further and further right without supporting progressives who could at least swing it back. They’re giving zohran shit currently abt his economic policies meanwhile the bullshit bill is gonna destroy ppl’s lives. They need to stop treading middle ground

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Anonymous #13 11w

No I fully agree 😭 that’s just the argument a lot of people were using. Even if their international diplomatic policies were identical, Palestine is worse off under Trump because of the fuckass environmental policies (and, to be clear, Trumps international policies are substantially worse as well)

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Anonymous #2 11w

I was going to vote third party. I was sure of it for 2 years. The last 3 months before Election Day, I saw how bad project 2025 was, and that the numbers were already looking like Trump might have a shot, so I voted for Kamala. I even went out of my way to convince republicans I know to vote for RFK jr instead (so I can double cancel out their vote 😂) but shit man, it’s not enough. It feels like nothing is or was enough

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Anonymous #16 11w

Literally fucking everything.

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Anonymous #14 11w

The Dems are conservatives with a different name. You saw how they moved right and how spineless they were to reject Biden’s reelection bid so Harris can run sooner and build, and actually campaign

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Anonymous #11 11w

Agree and it’s these purity tests that no politician can pass that has allowed the current situation to happen. And even if we can win at midterms, our system is broken and not in a good way. The Supreme Court will be like this for a very long time

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Anonymous #16 11w

Not destroying the last vestiges of our democracy? Jesus

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Anonymous #19 11w

Which is why those dusty fucks need term limits.

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Anonymous #1 11w

I’ve never understood why the Supreme Court is the only branch with no term limits

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Anonymous #11 11w

To enforce the white supremacist patriarchal system

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Anonymous #16 11w

Continuing lower unemployment, able to fix our tax plan, $25K for first time home buyers, etc

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Her ass did NOT win popular It was a notable thing it was the first time trump won popular

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Anonymous #19 11w

And i feel like elections are too important not to vote. Especially as a black person, my ancestors died trying to get this right, I’m not gonna squander it away

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Anonymous blourglass 11w

If only the election weren’t rigged..

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Anonymous #1 11w

what are you, a trump supporter? girl stfu

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Anonymous blourglass 11w

The fuck? No, I’m calling out the fact that that fascist fuck and his beloved swastikkkar buyout rigged it. I’m lamenting what could have been if they hadn’t rigged it.

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Anonymous #1 11w

leftists and liberals don’t develop the same psychosis republicans had in 2020 challenge difficulty impossible

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Anonymous #1 11w

Bffr

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Cool, I don’t support him and never have, and they admitted to fucking rigging it. Not everyone is against you, dipshit.

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Anonymous #18 11w

I am.

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Anonymous #1 11w

you say that while insulting me so i don’t think i believe you “dipshit”

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Anonymous bongo_fury 11w

The conditions under the Biden administration which led irl to trump’s victory would have been replicated under a Harris administration, which in all likelihood would just have led a maga takeover taking place in 2028, rather than 2024

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Anonymous bongo_fury 11w

thiisssss , why doesn’t anyone seem to get this.

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The argument they have made is that it’s in the interest of both of the two evils to prolong the “you have to choose the lesser of two evils” situation we’re in. Both parties seek to portray themselves as a lesser of two evils. If there was a better, third option, both would lose power to it.

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Anonymous #24 11w

Every promise to cause harm. Which makes you just as fucking complicit. Disgusting.

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Anonymous #1 11w

You say that like I personally agree with every promise he made and not just some of them

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Anonymous #25 11w

(also the trans women she sent to a men’s prison)

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Anonymous blourglass 11w

Thats what I meant these shit for brains just care that its a democrat they dont care about justice or empathy

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Anonymous #25 11w

100%

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Anonymous #25 11w

Don’t bother with blourglass, that skidmark wants to argue with anyone who isn’t copy-pasting her own narrow lens.

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The fact that we even have to consider that now makes me want to vomit

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Anonymous #11 11w

Its different when the other candidate is just as inhumane I dont hear any of you talking about the human rights violations Kamala has done

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Anonymous #1 11w

Ok? Im not wrong regardless

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Anonymous #25 11w

I’m not saying you are— I’m just saying blourglass isn’t worth your energy.

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Anonymous #1 11w

Fair enough I apologize

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Anonymous #16 11w

Not being a nazi. Our president is an actual fucking nazi. Think about that. We will be taught in future textbooks like Germany is taught in current textbooks.

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Anonymous #26 11w

And even Germany agrees

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Anonymous #24 11w

You voted for him with everything he’s doing spelled out. So you’re complicit. Own it

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Anonymous #24 11w

There’s literally a 900 page instruction manual telling you how evil his administration is, and it’s already 50% complete

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Anonymous #24 11w

You agreed with enough shit to overlook all of the terrible things he has done and WANTS to do to poor people, minorities, immigrants, queer people, women. Why the hell are you even in this thread.

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Anonymous #24 11w

Which promises are you talking about specifically

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Anonymous #24 11w

You know his campaign was set on causing as much harm as quickly as possible. Project 2025 has it all spelled out. He owned up to going forward with it. You knew that. You were told how that would hurt everyone. You knew when you went in to vote how he was going to work to exterminate people. You are complicit.

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Anonymous #20 11w

You are ignoring the people who didn’t vote. People were saying to not vote or vote third party instead of voting for Kamala

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Anonymous #13 11w

Honey let’s be fr rn I was ignoring a lot of potential trump voters when I included RFK in Kamala’s possible missed votes do u really think it’s gonna help that much to ignore all of the potential trump voters who didn’t vote

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Anonymous #11 11w

Its so (ideally) the justices can’t be bought out

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Anonymous #30 11w

that’s insane to me cause Clarence Thomas and most of the conservative judges are all bought🙄

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Anonymous bongo_fury 11w

Trump couldve and still can died before 2028 rolls around. MAGA can’t exist without him

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Anonymous #28 11w

Half of these things you could’ve voted for on a state level, you know that right. Also you cannot in good faith tell me ICE’s budget would be what it currently is under a democratic administration.

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Anonymous #30 11w

except i can. voting is a dead end and saps the creative energy of the masses. and yes, ICE did not lose funding under biden, but it became even more bloated. liberals need a reality check.

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Anonymous #30 11w

I have TERRIBLE news about who’s in power in my state and what they’re doing about healthcare, ice, etc

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Anonymous #11 11w

hey I just said how it’s intended to work, not how it actually works

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Anonymous #30 11w

That wasn’t to you specifically , I was just saying in general❤️

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Anonymous #30 11w

This is fair enough. Any cult of personality will have trouble surviving its founding figure. However you’re wrong if you think of this as something trump created alone; it’s something that existed before him which he saw, took, shaped, so far and so forth. That’s something somebody else could do. While it’s a movement about the love of a leader, the removal of the leader will lead to infighting, which will either lead to the fracturing of the movement or the advent of a new leader.

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OMG THIS Federal voting rarely makes a difference but u can single handedly make massive change to ur community by emailing and voting for local and state level representatives Florida almost constitutionalized abortion rights and NY just constitutionalized antidiscrimination laws through this exact thing

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Anonymous #28 11w

Sounds like you’re projecting

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Anonymous #20 11w

sorry i deleted my comment bc i replied to the wrong person 🦭 but yes! literally exactly that! more people should know the names of the state judges who are blocking all of this shit left and right because it’s likely that you!! have!! to!! vote!! for!! them!!

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Anonymous crossfaded_bi_guy 11w

the issue is that their version of “doing something” is just voting third party in the presidential election and nothing else. you can’t start there.

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Anonymous #31 11w

What you said is just blatantly false. If you've met any third party voters, you'd know that they're some of the loudest and most activist voters in America. Pro-Palestine protestors for example, and they do a hell of a lot more than nothing, and they're also not settling for silence the way the dems are. And voting third party tells the two parties that we aren't fucking happy with them, among other things.

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Anonymous crossfaded_bi_guy 11w

doing something politically.* i wasn’t talking about activism, which is where a lot of y’all seem to get lost. moral duty ≠ political strategy. i don’t disagree with you about dems or palestine, but frankly nobody in those congressional seats cares that third party voters are not happy with them. in addition to activism, get involved in local and state levels of government First. if third party candidates only ever campaign for president, then i really doubt they gaf 🫡

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Anonymous #1 11w

They say this every election and the only thing that happens is the Overton Window gets pushed further and further to the right, that’s why the US has no political party that is actually left wing

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Anonymous #25 11w

I say this with all due respect: no the fuck Kamala is not “just as inhumane”

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It wasn’t a moved goal post it’s just in the state constitution that u need 60% for a amendment and yall only had 57% which is still very impressive considering the state and does show a possibility of change still

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