Anonymous OP 19h

Exactly I’m a bi white cis nonbinary person who presents very feminine in a relationship with a man I have the privilege of looking “normal” when I go out with my partner. Nobody says anything or gives us looks. However when I dated women in high school I did not have the same privileges and many people (usually the homophobic “country” boys) gave us shit about it. Additionally though because I present as female I (thankfully only occasionally) deal with (usually men) being sexually aggressive

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Anonymous #1 19h

Or demeaning

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Anonymous OP 15h

I think it’s just about how people define privilege. If it includes interpersonal relationships and conditional acceptance, then yeah. If it’s about power structures and systemic issues, then no, bi people aren’t more privileged. Flying under the radar because people think you're straight doesn’t mean your sexuality is respected to the same degree a cis person's is. Two separate, related concepts.

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Anonymous #2 14h

No one said its about respect its about the ability to be safe.

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Anonymous OP 13h

Ok sure. So do trans women have cis man privilege while boymoding? Before coming out? Because that’s the same idea

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Anonymous #2 12h

Wow. Way to bring up trans women and say they’re boys in a roundabout way. Thats the whole danger of being trans. It is dangerous to be visibly trans or queer. So yes— it was safer for trans women before they came out. A non queer appearing relationship will always be a privilege and a cis person will be a privilege. Crazy to call it boymoding.

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Anonymous #2 12h

The whole idea of coming out and appearing as queer or trans is dangerous. If i dont tell people im a lesbian, im not a lesbian in their eyes bc straight is the default. Before my girlfriend came out as trans, she was SEEN as a cis individual. Meaning yes. In both of those scenarios privileges are had and when we both came out we no longer had those.

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Anonymous OP 5h

I’m trans. Guess I experienced no transphobia before coming out. Thx for your fascinating insight into my life!

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Anonymous #2 5h

Literally what are you talking about. You asked me if pretransition trans girls experience privilege because they havent come out yet and the answer is YES. Such a basic concept that shows you don’t understand how privilege works in praxis. It is a often sight based concept that works on visual cues. You see me and im perceived as white, that gives me privilege. You see a pretransition person, and they are perceived as cis because they are PRETRANSITION. That gives you privilege.

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Anonymous #2 5h

I never spoke on your life. I’ve experienced transphobia as a cis woman because i look very androgynous and manly according to transphobes perceptions. But i still have cis privilege.

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Anonymous OP 5h

Wowowow tell me more about my own oppression! 🥰🤪

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Anonymous #2 5h

So, you tried to tell me about mine. So like, even? 🤪. But seriously. Im telling you what PRIVILEGE. Thats a universal concept.

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Anonymous OP 5h

I said "it depends how you define privilege" because different people describe privilege differently, and then I asked you questions, but ok cis girl, keep thinking ur in the right and I'm the mean aggressive one. Also uh, I'm bi and trans. Defo I was super safe before coming out because of people like you telling me I was! I've always been bi and trans and amazingly, my life was affected by that before coming out. But tell me more about your experience as a cis woman experiencing transphobia

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Anonymous #2 5h

Privilege is a societal based concept it is how society treats you. Do you seriously not think you were treated BETTER before you came out? And ok? Dont care. Calls to authority don’t make you the expert on the subject of privilege. I also didn’t call you mean and aggressive?? Just making shit up now. And i thought it was pretty universally agreed that transphobia was dangerous to all 🤷‍♀️ do you not think me being removed from a school bathroom was transphobia? Because what else could that be?

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Anonymous #2 5h

Im not saying i understand what YOU personally go through. But privilege is not debatable and it is fluid and changes depending on presentation. Society treats you better when YOU FIT IN. Thats the whole fucking point. Privilege is not a concept thats subjective. Thats like sayinf you don’t have white privilege because you don’t believe you do. Its something that just IS. And it can be removed.

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Anonymous OP 4h

LMAO FOR REAL

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Anonymous OP 4h

Wait the op of the first post?

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Anonymous #3 4h

yeah idk what that was about 😭

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Anonymous #3 4h

How you gonna whine to me about not understanding privilege and then call me a slur

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Anonymous OP 4h

They blocked me for calling them a man lmfaooo

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Anonymous #3 4h

Nah the person i was just arguinf with in these comments but i wouldn’t put it past OOP 😂

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Anonymous OP 4h

People will literally do anything but be normal about lesbians…

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