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This exact reason is why I feel uncomfortable with my own college’s LGBTQ groups/clubs. They’ve also excluded me from things when I have tried to do things with them. NBphobia is sadly prevalent when it’s for people who present masc and especially AMAB
AMAB NB here, it’s insane how I have to justify being nonbinary to a lot of people, even in the trans community because I’m not the NB stereotype of androgyny / light fem I’m happy with myself but because I don’t fit the archetype, I’m an imposter
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Anonymous 9w

I don’t want to talk over you and the issues for masc amab nonbinary ppl, I’ll delete if you want me to, I just want to say I feel like there’s people who hate any nonbinary person who they don’t see as androgynous. Like they don’t think your “nonbinary enough” unless your somehow “passing as nonbinary” <- thing that isn’t real

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Anonymous 9w

OP here, unfortunately for reasons like this I have to integrate my pride flags into my outfits a lot to visually identify myself as NB / LGBT because I don’t “look the part” or don’t go far enough with it. It’s a sad and unfortunate reality where safe spaces that were made for us exclude us because they don’t see us for who we are

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

AFAB nb people who are very fem you mean? They definitely face problems too. But as an AMAB Masc-presenting nb bean, I feel like that AFAB person would have a better chance at not being entirely excluded from LGBTQ groups entirely. I know I know, it’s not the oppression olympics. Everyone has their own shit. But this is my perspective. I just wish people who would say “nb people don’t owe anyone androgyny” wouldn’t have double standards so often when it comes to masc and especially amab masc NB

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

It’s not the oppression Olympics but your right. I’m jsut saying that idk. It seems like non nonbinary people think there’s some right way to be nonbinary and I’m sick of it. Yall definitely face that more, I’m just saying I agree and it jsut sucks all around

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 9w

It hurts all of us! The same attitudes keep AMAB NB’s from being accepted, and limit the expression / acceptance for other NB’s too! I know plenty of NB’s who are considered “basically a trans guy” because they act “too masculine”. This is a problem that affects all of us, some of us are hit more by it than others yes but it hurts all of us in some way!

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

idk, i think AMAB enby people get the brunt of it just due to the discomfort around men, but fem AFAB ppl definitely are also not seen as fully nonbinary in queer spaces as well. i’ve seen a lot of people that use they/she or just r ultra fem have their identity completely disregarded

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

i’m afab and used to be pretty masc, but after i started to explore my femininity after years of repressing it suddenly i was a girl to soooo many queer people i know again

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 9w

The funny thing is I’m also exploring being transfeminine, my post is highlighting last year when I was NB masc though and didn’t realize that yet. Do you think others will treat me as a girl too?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

Oh wait you said afab not amab I’m sorry. What do you identify as?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

i think it’s def possible, even in queer spaces there is still that mindset that fem=girl masc=boy. i present as both at different times now bc i like to switch it up, and i’ve noticed that people honestly treat me differently depending on how masc/fem im dressed

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 9w

lol you’re all good, i’m nonbinary but used to ID as trans masc, i look quite masculine upon first glance tho if i don’t have my tits out bc i’m bald

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