Anonymous #1 14w

The rules should be enforced either way. Do you think we should get rid of international humanitarian law?

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Anonymous #3 14w

No i think that matters too. Anyone who breaks it should be held accountable. Do you think we should get rid of international humanitarian laws?

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Anonymous #2 14w

of course not, but violations on both sides should be equally recognized and called out which doesn’t currently happen as the media is seemingly much more focused on portraying Israel negatively than accurate reporting of real violations from both sides.

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Anonymous #3 14w

and not to mention complete lack of international pressure for Hamas to comply with humanitarian law/rules of engagement

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Anonymous #3 14w

Im confused because the mainstream media paints israel in a super positive light. They gloss over the war crimes they have committed and focus on Israel’s right to defense

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Anonymous #3 14w

I mean theyre getting obliterated so

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Anonymous #2 14w

I disagree, from my view I mainly see media presenting Israel as a completely unjustified aggressor while glossing over the war crimes committed by Hamas.

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Anonymous #3 14w

for example there has been no mention of the uncovering of the Hamas command center underneath the neonatal unit of the European Hospital in any mainstream media outlet outside of Israel.

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Anonymous #3 14w

I am not sure its a matter of agreement, you can just look through all the headlines from mainstream news stations and clearly tell which way the bias leand

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Anonymous #2 14w

leans*

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Anonymous #3 14w

European hospital? Havent heard about it, will have to look it up

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Anonymous #3 14w

Idk why mainstream news stations arent reporting on that but Reuters did. Still, the IOF does not have to commit war crimes against civilians to go after Hamas. Why does Israel not hold the soldiers accountable, especially the ones who kill red cross people and shoot families with children in the heads?

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Anonymous #2 14w

first off, the acronym IOF is not the correct acronym for the forces fighting to protect the people of Israel. Second off, by international law if a previously protected place loses its status and becomes a legitimate target once if it is used for military purposes (ie an attack on a hospital with a command and weapons depot underneath it is not a war crimes).

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Anonymous #3 14w

Additionally, Israel does hold its forces accountable as there have been many instances throughout the war of officers or soldiers being disciplined/relieved from duty for violations of the IDFs own rules of engagement. Notably Hamas has never been known to discipline its soldiers for violations of international law.

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Anonymous #3 14w

So you are saying Israel has committed no real war crimes against civilians and the red cross? 😐 Do you disagree with all the organizations that say its a genocide? Why have they used more bombs than were used in WW2?

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Anonymous #2 14w

ignoring your bandwagoning and appealing-to-authority arguments here and just focusing on your first statement: I do not argue that Israel has conducted itself in a perfect manner. Instead I argue that focusing solely on the wrongdoings of one side while completely ignoring the wrongdoings of the other side when there is clear evidence of said sides wrongdoings shows your inherent prejudice against the Israeli state.

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Anonymous #3 14w

I also feel that you willfully ignore the fact that for all 600+ days of this specific war there has been an outstanding offer, both explicitly and implicitly, from the Israelis to end all hostilities in return for the unconditional release of all civilian hostages taken on Oct 7.

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Anonymous #3 14w

I am not the one ignoring the wrongdoings of either side. You are. I said both should be held accountable. Seems like you have prejudice against the Palestinian state.

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Anonymous #3 14w

im honestly just really bugged by this because there is nothing i can find about any soldiers being held accountable or charged with war crimes which means you just made that up. in general tho, what the people in power in Israel and the Israeli military are doing is nothing short of sadistic cruelty. There are so many unjustifiable things that have happened and continued to happen with regard to how civilians are being treated, im shocked you see it so differently

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Anonymous #2 14w

a quick search reveals at least 5 stories of IDF soldiers being held accountable for their conduct. I challenge you to find a single story about Hamas internally holding one of their fighters accountable for anything ever.

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Anonymous #2 14w

not defending anything those specific soldiers did as they were court martialed and held accountable for valid reasons. Just putting it out there as evidence that the IDF may be holding themselves to a little bit of a higher standard than it may appear versus completely allowing them to descend to the level of the Hamas terrorists.

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Anonymous #3 14w

The ends do not justify the means. I dont think we will ever agree if you think they do.

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Anonymous #3 14w

Do you think ethnic cleansing is a justified response to a security threat?

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