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if they literally just allowed the people who are here to become citizens easily and then strengthened the border a LOT (bc they saved money by not going after people) then I don't think anyone would give a shit. it's how they're going about it.
I’m 100% in the minority on this among liberals/leftists but I don’t mind securing the border being a major priority. The ICE/ mass deportation/ shit is gross but better managing the flow of people into the US is a good thing
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Anonymous 3w

I just cannot comprehend why people are against enforcing our immigration laws? Whenever I ask people essentially say they’re owed citizenship because of colonialism. Sorry, but no. The majority of people coming here aren’t even facing any real danger to their lives. They just see the US as a place they’ll make more money. Others say we need them to work the jobs no one wants to work. To which I’d say you’re advocating for what is essentially second class citizens relegated to menial labor.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

Majority of people coming here literally came from shit living conditions which does place a real danger to their lives. You just don't hear about dirt patties and bathing in the same water you shit in and children needing peanut butter from WHO to stay alive because they're so malnourished. all of those things can kill someone through diseases or starvation. if you think our gov doesn't care, theirs care even less because it's even MORE corrupt. if they are ALREADY HERE and IN THE SYSTEM

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

To continue. Why would you willingly bring in more competition to the already engorged labor pool? There are currently more people looking for jobs than job openings, this means the ball is now in the corporations court, if they say jump to get this job you can only ask how high. No counter offers, no negotiations. It is suicidal empathy at its finest. Most young Americans already have a bleak outlook on the future, there is zero possibility importing more labor will make any of our lives better

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 3w

trying to do the right thing, then why not just let them be a citizen? they're already busting their ass and here and it would save lots of money to not have to deport them. have stronger immigration for those who are not in the system after said date and alrighty cool

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

that's all because of the shit trump is doing with tariffs and interest rates lol farmers can't hire people, corps that import can't hire people because it cost more money to import things so they can't afford new employees....

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

I do think “the current state of the economy is bad, no more immigrants” is a pretty shit argument when there are clear examples of fiscal policies that are putting the economy in a bad state

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Anonymous 3w

They mean corporations that import their goods, and hire people in America for things like distribution and retailing. Not corporations that import their workforce. When they say “corps that import”

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Anonymous 3w

Like, if there’s less goods coming onto the docks because the president is sabotaging foreign imports at every level, every worker on the docks suffers potential to be laid off, since less goods = less necessary hands to move those goods. And at every company between the docks and the retailer too.

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Anonymous replying to -> cheese_of_the_world_unite 3w

Tariffs and trade protectionism only work if you have an active manufacturing-driven economy to protect. Doing it to try to create a manufacturing economy from a post-industrial one, you’re gonna cost a lot of people their jobs in the meantime before the hypothetical return of manufacturing, if that ever even comes. That’s the tightening we’re seeing in the job market this year, and it’s not caused by immigrants.

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Anonymous replying to -> cheese_of_the_world_unite 3w

My point still stands though, regardless of what is the primary root of less jobs. Bringing in MORE labor to an already bloated market will do absolutely nothing good for anyone, including those that are immigrating here.

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