Anonymous blue__wave 3d

That’s why you can only name three and one is a mayor lol

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Anonymous #1 3d

Fateh also lost the general election so this kinda disproves your point

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Katie Wilson has been the mayor of Seattle since the beginning of this year

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Anonymous #1 3d

That’s cool but relative to all elected officials it’s not significant assuming she’s a dem soc I’ve never of her tbh.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

I mean one of those is quite literally the most popular democrat since Obama

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Anonymous #3 3d

Uhhhhh idk about “since Obama”, what metric are we using?

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

I hadn’t either lol

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Anonymous #3 3d

Who’s the most popular dem since Obama?

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Anonymous #1 3d

vibes

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Anonymous #3 3d

lol fair

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Bro is really asking me to critical think for him

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Mamdani

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Anonymous #4 3d

When’s the last time nyc voted in a socialist?

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Anonymous #1 3d

I don’t think that’s true

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Anonymous #1 3d

Mary Sheffield then

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Previously someone calling themselves a socialist couldn’t get you elected anywhere. To pretend a shift isn’t occurring is just cope.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

Maybe a shift but things can shift a little and stop. My claim wasn’t there’s no shift.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Didnt you just say you thought that bc of vibes lol?

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Plus you’re not accounting for the active opposition and suppression of left wing populist candidates from within the Democratic Party.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Yeah I was trolling, you’re the one who can’t think critically apparently

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

I was not aware so many new mayors were elected damn

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Anonymous #1 3d

Landslide victory too.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

David Dinkins (1990-1993), didn’t run as a socialist like Mamdani but was a member of the DSA Fiorello La Guardia during the New Deal era is one of the most celebrated NYC mayors of all time, not a “socialist” so to speak but had that left-wing populism that was popular amongst Americans at the time (like FDR but less racist)

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Anonymous #4 3d

So effectively never?

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Anonymous #4 3d

The closest one probably being la guardia, who is like one of the single most successful New York mayors ever?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

self-identified no, but in terms of progressive-esque or socialist-lite candidates it’s not incredibly uncommon

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Anonymous #4 3d

Well if you could only list two they must not be *that* common. Not to mention, none as of yet self identified as socialist. That used to be a death knell, and yet in modern America it is not.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

through the 1910s and 1940s it was common but yeah, DSA is ab as socialist of a candidate that has seen any major office since

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

It still is. Democratic socialists aren’t socialists anyway

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Anonymous #1 3d

Clearly it isn’t. You couldn’t call yourself a democratic socialist and get elected 30 years ago.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

Bernie Sanders would disagree, but some would still not call him a socialist

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

I don’t think there is any meaningful suppression you guys just over state your popularity.

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Anonymous #1 3d

Some lefties wouldn’t call any leftist figure a socialist. That doesn’t fucking matter. Public sentiment does. Public sentiment on Mamdani is that he is both a socialist AND widely beloved.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Um wrong

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Then you’re a fool, man.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

The democrats backed and and funded cuomo over mamdani, many refusing to back mamdani even after he was the clear winner.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

The democrats represent corporate interests bro. They have money that THEY would lose if people like mamdani got their way.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

No I just don’t buy into the talking point. Bernie lost the popular vote in the primary. You guys are like Trump any time you win it’s bc you’re super popular when you lose it’s bc of suppression from some deep state. Maybe you just aren’t that popular. Which is fine I probably have some unpopular beliefs but engage with the fact of the matter.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

You’re right. It’s impossible that Bernie was at all suppressed by the media and dnc. After all, people *clearly* preferred Hillary Clinton. You’re right. Americans want someone like Kamala Harris, not a populist. That’s why 2/3 elections Americans voted in Donald trump, a faux populist.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Mamdani created a national culture event out of the NYC election, meanwhile kamala Harris failed to make a state sized event out of the presidential election. Have you ever considered maybe you overestimate your own popularity?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

Yeah exactly it’s unfalsifiable somehow mamdani was more powerful than the corporations but all of these other socialist aren’t for some reason. Isn’t it more likely that popularity plays a big part in this whole thing. I feel like that explains the difference.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

What do you mean for some reason? Mamdani is a once in a generation politician. His media presence alone is crazy. Not just *any* socialist could’ve won the NYC election lmao, and if you think that’s what I’m saying you’re a fool. Which, by all accounts, it seems like you are.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

Mamdani was very savvy with social media and had clear, concise messaging. That’s why he won. That’s how Donald Trump won. The average swing voter just votes on vibes these days. 10% of Mandani’s voters literally voted for Trump

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

But that doesn’t mean left populism isn’t popular in and of itself, there’s tons of evidence to the contrary. Not least of which being that a right wing populist has governed over our lives for a decade. And let’s be clear, the DNC refuses to run a populist. It’s not that they aren’t popular enough. They prevented an open primary and forced in an establishment candidate last election.

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Anonymous #5 3d

The word “illegal” isn’t censored on here lmfao

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Anonymous #1 3d

Politicians? Win off of effective messaging? Telling that to a Democrat in Washington would make their head pop like a water balloon.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

You’re preaching to the choir lol

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Anonymous #1 3d

Preaching to fucking blue wave rn. This mf would have Gavin “unpopular even in my home state” newsom as the fucking president

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Anonymous #1 3d

Gavin “let Ben Shapiro cuck me on my own show” newsom

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

December poll shows him at 56% favorability though (idk if that’s the same as popularity)

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Anonymous #1 3d

That’s still awful. In your home fucking state.

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Anonymous #1 3d

Perfect for a Democrat president tho.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

Oops, November 13-19. Politico’s article about the results was in December. I’m not saying that’s anything to write home about at all. Just that he’s not unpopular in his home state

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

That’s not the point I was making, my claim isn’t mamdani is a random socialist I’m saying you guys under play popularity and you overplay this thing conspiracy, it’s very maga like.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Do you disagree that the democratic establishment tried to use Andrew cuomo to prevent mamdani from winning the NYC election?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

If they did it was an absolutely horrible attempt at it, considering Cuomo barely campaigned on anything besides “brown man bad” and has tons of scandals. But Mamdani should have absolutely BODIED him. I think he’s somewhat lucky he wasn’t up against an actually competent candidate

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

In what way? Most main stream dems like Obama were supporting Mamdani pretty openly, unless you have examples.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

mainstream Dems outside of people like Bernie and AOC generally backed Cuomo over Mamdani until Mamdani’s win was likely and backing Cuomo became politically non-viable

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Anonymous #1 3d

Well I didn’t say they were competent. They just have a lot of money. The reality is the kind of candidate they used to succeed in pushing us down with isn’t very popular anymore. Cuomo types can’t really win anymore, neither can Hillary’s or Kamala’s.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Chuck Schumer alone refused to back mamdani like the entire race

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Anonymous #4 3d

The ones I watched kinda didn’t want to touch that race at all 😭 maybe I don’t remember

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Anonymous #4 3d

I don’t think that’s true Kamala for example backed him after the primary. If I’m wrong feel free to source some examples of this.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

I mean are we surprised. Let’s be honest. Cuomo wasn’t “Democrat-backed”. He was AIPAC-backed. Funded by the likes of Bill Ackman

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Here’s a guardian article about it from June.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Harris did yes, but I know the likes of Hochul, Jeffries, and Schumer held off endorsements until very late in the race if they endorsed him at all

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Anonymous #1 3d

AIPAC backed and Democrat establishment backed means the same thing.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

Is him refusing to back someone in a mayoral election suppression of a candidate? I feel like again big names like Kamala openly supported him.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

Yes. Not to mention all of the corporate funding that was pumped into cuomo, who was explicitly an artificial candidate propped up to combat Mamdani

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

There’s a difference between not backing a candidate versus backing the other side. I think if you’re a national level politician I can see how it wouldn’t be advantageous to throw your weight behind a mayoral election of someone on the fringe of the party. If that’s the conspiracy then ig sure.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

when the de facto leader of the democrats especially in Mamdani’s own state refuses to endorse the democratic primary winner I think it’s troubling

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Anonymous #4 3d

And that’s fine national level people don’t have to throw their weight behind someone on the fringe of their party in a mayoral race against a washed up governor. If this is the suppression we’re talking about then I think that’s pretty weak.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

Not really. Ackman supported Trump in 2016 and 2024. Donated to Renee Good’s murderer’s GoFundMe too. Ronald Lauder donated to Cuomo (but really wanted Greenland annexed!)

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Anonymous #1 3d

What are you trying to say?

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Anonymous #4 3d

I think they could do more suppressing if suppression is just some people waiting until later in the race.

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Anonymous blue__wave 3d

That lack of endorsement is definitely more about AIPAC backlash than not wanting to put their credibility on the line for a mayoral race. AIPAC has gotten so hardline that they ran $2M of ads in a NJ house primary. Against a pro-Israel candidate who wasn’t pro-Israel enough for them

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Anonymous #4 3d

Thats fine you can think it’s troubling I just don’t think that would be any meaningful kind of suppression.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 3d

AIPAC is the more common thread behind Cuomo’s supporters, not the DNC. Staunch republicans supported Cuomo

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Anonymous #4 3d

Look how far this convo has moved we started at “the democrats are suppressing all the socialist for evil reason” to “well they could have said something earlier”.

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